Second Order

Second Order
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Hosted by two Stanford graduate students, Neha and Elsa, Second Order explores the mental models and skills that make us better entrepreneurs. Through deep conversations with experts who’ve built, led, or studied what actually works, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the habits, frameworks, and decisions that drive meaningful impact. If you're building something (or thinking about it) this is your space to think a layer deeper.
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The podcast focuses on entrepreneurial mental models, decision-making frameworks, and impactful habits, with episodes exploring storytelling's role in leadership, the utility of OKRs in startups, and the importance of vulnerability in team dynamics.

Hosted by two Stanford graduate students, Neha and Elsa, Second Order explores the mental models and skills that make us better entrepreneurs. Through deep conversations with experts who’ve built, led, or studied what actually works, we go beyond the highlight reel to unpack the habits, frameworks, and decisions that drive meaningful impact. If you’re building something (or thinking about it) this is your space to think a layer deeper.
What does Stanford’s James Landay believe will be the next paradigm of computing? You’ll have to listen in to find out 👀
Today’s guest is Professor James Landay, Stanford Computer Science faculty and co-director of the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI. In this episode, we explore how sharp UX and smart data drive entrepreneurial wins. From early-stage validation to spatial computing, storytelling interfaces, and AI-native design, James shares frameworks, failures, and future predictions that every founder should hear.

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