Agentic DevOps
Agentic DevOps
Podcast Description
Where LLMs, AI Agents, and MCP tools meet DevOps. How can we humans use non-deterministic, often hallucinating LLMs to automate our infrastructure and help us with the job of software lifecycle management? I’m Bret Fisher, and this is the Agentic DevOps podcast. After the invention of AI Agents and the MCP standard in late 2024, I started this podcast in early '25 with a narrow topic focus… to document and advise how AI Agents, MCP tools, and large language models can be used in the real world for assisting with DevOps automation, platform engineering, and day to day systems operations… a podcast series hopefully without the hand-wavy AI hype or dreams of a pure AI workforce. I'm joined by my co-host, Nirmal Metha, and expert guests trying to make use of crazy texting robots.
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The podcast focuses on topics related to DevOps automation, platform engineering, and systems operations, with specific episodes exploring how AI agents can assist in deployment processes, the role of MCP tools in infrastructure management, and practical applications of LLMs in software lifecycle management. It aims to provide actionable advice while avoiding unrealistic expectations about AI capabilities.

Where LLMs, AI Agents, and MCP tools meet DevOps. How can we humans use non-deterministic, often hallucinating LLMs to automate our infrastructure and help us with the job of software lifecycle management? I’m Bret Fisher, and this is the Agentic DevOps podcast. After the invention of AI Agents and the MCP standard in late 2024, I started this podcast in early ’25 with a narrow topic focus… to document and advise how AI Agents, MCP tools, and large language models can be used in the real world for assisting with DevOps automation, platform engineering, and day to day systems operations… a podcast series hopefully without the hand-wavy AI hype or dreams of a pure AI workforce. I’m joined by my co-host, Nirmal Metha, and expert guests trying to make use of crazy texting robots.
My friend Brian Christner (Docker Captain alum) and I go through our AI harnesses, agents, models, and what we’re playing with right now. OpenClaw, OpenCode, Claude Code, Copilot, and all of it.
Check out the video podcast version here: https://youtu.be/8AFE0kxaY2k
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★Show Links★
Agents & Claude Code Setup
Brian’s OpenClaw Projects
Creators & Guests
- Bret Fisher – Host
- Beth Fisher – Producer
- Cristi Cotovan – Editor
- Brian Christner – Guest
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- (00:00) – Introduction
- (03:01) – AI Tools and Skills Deep Dive
- (33:09) – Securing OpenClaw Servers
- (39:15) – Safe Use Cases and Token Control
- (50:00) – OpenClaw DOs and DON’Ts
- (55:28) – NanoClaw and Container Future

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