Truth about Public Sector podcast
Truth about Public Sector podcast
Podcast Description
The Truth about Public Sector podcast is a platform committed to providing a free resource to the public sector, seeking to provide solutions to the problems the sector is facing. Our purpose is to widen the echo chamber, where public sector innovation and solution orientated action can be shared, perpetuated and help public sector organisations to deliver services that support the communities they serve.Through collaboration and innovation, we will find the solutions the public sector needs, to tackle the challenges ahead.Join hosts Hannah Quinn-Hill & Matt Masters for some enlightening and interesting content, explored in a honest, fun and real way.
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The podcast explores critical topics related to public sector challenges, including procurement transformation, social value in public services, and sustainable practices. Episode examples include discussions on the impact of the Procurement Act 2023 and innovative solutions for enhancing procurement processes in sectors like NHS and local government.

The Truth about Public Sector podcast is a platform committed to providing a free resource to the public sector, seeking to provide solutions to the problems the sector is facing. Our purpose is to widen the echo chamber, where public sector innovation and solution orientated action can be shared, perpetuated and help public sector organisations to deliver services that support the communities they serve.
Through collaboration and innovation, we will find the solutions the public sector needs, to tackle the challenges ahead.
Join hosts Hannah Quinn-Hill & Matt Masters for some enlightening and interesting content, explored in a honest, fun and real way.
Truth About Public Sector & NHPA Podcast
The Procurement Act 2023 has officially moved beyond implementation mode and so has the conversation. In this special forward‑looking episode, From Burden to Brilliance: Making PA23 Work, the Truth About Public Sector welcomes two of the sector’s most influential procurement leaders to explore what comes next for social housing.
Joining host Hannah Quinn‑Hill, we’re delighted to feature:
• Alan Heron, Director of Procurement, Places for People
A sector heavyweight leading procurement at one of the UK’s largest and most complex housing groups. Alan brings a national perspective on capability, commercial transformation, and how PA23 is reshaping the behaviours and expectations of modern procurement teams. Known for championing commerciality, innovation, and strategic value, Alan offers a clear-eyed view of what future‑proofing really looks like at scale.
• John Wallace, Director of Procurement, Clarion Housing Group & NHPA Representative
Recognised for his work in strengthening governance and elevating procurement maturity across the sector, John brings both an organisational and national lens. As a representative of the National Housing Procurement Association (NHPA), he shares insight into evolving talent expectations, sector readiness, and the role NHPA must now play in driving capability and consistency under the new regime.
In this episode, we move past early impressions of PA23 and dig into the future-facing truths that matter:
✅ The long‑term risks and opportunities emerging from PA23
✅ What “organisational fitness” now means; capability, skills, and commercial behaviours
✅ Whether PA23 is already creating a recruitment divide
✅ The pressure points facing social landlords across compliance, regulation, and cost
✅ How suppliers must evolve and whether innovation is really materialising
✅ The influence and expectations on the NHPA in shaping the next chapter
This conversation is for leaders, procurement professionals, suppliers, and anyone who needs to understand what PA23 really means for the next era of social housing.
If the sector is going to shift from compliance to real strategic value, this is the conversation that shows how we get there.

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