Minister Solly Malatsi sits down with Lebogang Langa to talk about what governing a digital economy actually requires, when the technology moves faster than the frameworks built to contain it, and the infrastructure it runs on is largely owned elsewhere.

The conversation moves through the National AI Policy withdrawal and what it revealed about how government is adopting AI without governance, the Starlink and equity equivalent investment controversy and what problem it was actually trying to solve, and a direct challenge drawn from the Freedom Charter: if “the people shall share in the country’s wealth” were written today, what would it demand of a portfolio built on data, platforms, and networks.

Along the way, Malatsi speaks candidly about growing up in rural Limpopo, what coalition government has actually cost him, and his own honest assessment of whether South Africa can build the digital future it needs.