The Skeptical Marketer
Podcast Description
Big Tech is under the microscope — and we’re not looking away. The Skeptical Marketer is your guide to the digital world we’ve built, featuring sharp, unfiltered conversations about antitrust trials, ad fraud, platform accountability, and the truth behind your media spend. Hosted by Jake Surrey, this show brings together legal experts, watchdogs, and insiders to unpack the forces shaping tech, trust, and transparency. New episodes every week.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast explores themes such as antitrust trials, ad fraud, digital marketing strategies, and the evolving landscape of platform accountability. Notable episodes include discussions on the seismic shifts in marketing, the decline of traditional search, practical audience targeting strategies, and the future of advertising and privacy in a data-driven world.

Big Tech is under the microscope — and we’re not looking away. The Skeptical Marketer is your guide to the digital world we’ve built, featuring sharp, unfiltered conversations about antitrust trials, ad fraud, platform accountability, and the truth behind your media spend. Hosted by Jake Surrey, this show brings together legal experts, watchdogs, and insiders to unpack the forces shaping tech, trust, and transparency. New episodes every week.
If you’re wondering where digital marketing is heading and how seismic shifts at Google and across the internet are impacting brands, then this episode of the Skeptical Marketer with guest Charlie Grinnell is a must-listen.
Charlie is the co-CEO and co-founder of Right Metric, a strategic insights partner specializing in analyzing huge digital datasets across web, search, social, and advertising for major brands. With a background spanning creative video production, brand-side marketing at Red Bull, and deep data analytics, Charlie brings a uniquely broad and data-powered perspective. Simply put, he’s witnessed digital marketing’s evolution from the front lines and now helps brands see big-picture trends that affect everyone.
Key takeaways & lessons:
The “Seismic Shift” in marketing: Charlie dissects why what we’re experiencing now isn’t just about AI or “faster change” but a true seismic shift—driven by audience behaviour, content saturation, and the explosion of new channels. He shows how these changes aren’t just hype—they reshape how brands succeed.
The decline of traditional search: Both Jake and Charlie discuss how Google’s dominance is fragmenting, why paid and organic search are less reliable, and how consumer trust and search habits are changing. Expect actionable advice on why you can’t just rely on search and what to do instead.
Where to find your audience: The episode covers practical strategies—like using SparkToro, testing unexpected channels (Reddit, Discord, dark social), and focusing on “fishing where the fish are”—to reach people where they actually spend time.
The return of creativity & media thinking: Discover why success now depends on marketing “like a media company,” creating content ecosystems people love even before they’re ready to buy, and why always-on, audience-first engagement matters more than ever.
The future of ads, privacy & measurement: Get clarity on cookies, privacy, antitrust forces, GA4’s challenges, and why small businesses must rethink their approach to get results in the new era.
Charlie Grinnell’s LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/charliegrinnell
RightMetric’s Website: https://www.rightmetric.co
RightMetric’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rightmetric
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