The third episode in our “What Now” mini-series, exploring the questions people are really asking themselves when the old rules of work and life no longer apply, tackles redundancy. This week’s guest, Emy Cragoe, co-founder of Ori, a new platform rethinking how people understand themselves, navigate their careers, and communicate their value, makes the case for flipping the stigma around redundancy entirely. After redundancy prompted her own career rethink, Emy is now building the tool she wishes she’d had.

In this episode, Emy talks to Dan and Alice about:

• What it actually felt like to be made redundant just before Christmas, and why she now sees it as one of the best things to happen to her
• Why school and university leave people so unprepared to understand their own strengths
• The difference between mentors, career coaches and sponsors, and why sponsorship might be the most underrated of the three
• Her practical, three-step advice for anyone facing redundancy right now
• Why she thinks the stigma around redundancy is fading, and what actually matters is what you do next
• Building Ori, an AI careers intelligence platform designed to match people to roles, mentors and skills based on who they really are

“I almost think that people who are being made redundant now or in the next year or so are actually quite fortunate.”

This is episode three of “What Now,” our mini-series on what comes next when the old script stops applying.

Find out more and join the waitlist at ori.careers, or follow Emy on TikTok at @emmy.cragoe.