What is Collective Healing?
What is Collective Healing?
Podcast Description
What is Collective Healing? is a weekly podcast exploring how people around the world are finding new ways to heal the individual, inter-generational and collective trauma at the root of our global crises.
Presented by the Pocket Project, the series features deeply personal conversations with practitioners who have trained under Thomas Hübl and other pioneers of collective healing – giving listeners a direct experience of the transformational potential this work can unlock.
Drawing on a wide diversity of voices from different countries, cultures and communities, the series aims to make the universal principles underlying collective healing practices newly accessible to all – and honour the many lineages and traditions informing today’s cutting-edge practices.
In an age of overwhelming complexity and news overload, it’s easy to forget that we’re not meant to carry the weight of the world alone. What Is Collective Healing? is your weekly reminder that not only are we wired to grieve, celebrate and heal together – we’re discovering new ways to transmute polarisation, trauma and despair into the seeds of a more flourishing future. These conversations show us how.
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The podcast delves into themes of individual, inter-generational, and collective trauma, exploring transformative healing practices globally. Topics include Global Social Witnessing, trauma-informed leadership, and community resilience, with specific episodes featuring conversations about the origins of Global Social Witnessing and collective integration.

What is Collective Healing? is a weekly podcast exploring how people around the world are finding new ways to heal the individual, inter-generational and collective trauma at the root of our global crises.
Presented by the Pocket Project, the series features deeply personal conversations with practitioners who have trained under Thomas Hübl and other pioneers of collective healing – giving listeners a direct experience of the transformational potential this work can unlock.
Drawing on a wide diversity of voices from different countries, cultures and communities, the series aims to make the universal principles underlying collective healing practices newly accessible to all – and honor the many lineages and traditions informing today’s cutting-edge practices.
In an age of overwhelming complexity and news overload, it’s easy to forget that we’re not meant to carry the weight of the world alone. What Is Collective Healing? is your weekly reminder that not only are we wired to grieve, celebrate and heal together – we’re discovering new ways to transmute polarization, trauma and despair into the seeds of a more flourishing future. These conversations show us how.
To learn more about how the Pocket Project is creating a culture of trauma-informed care, please visit www.pocketproject.org to join our global events, services and courses.
Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J’aime Rothbard.
When we embark on a healing path, there will inevitably come a point when we meet parts of ourselves that we’d previously managed to deny or avoid.
At the personal level, this can look like reflecting on things we said or did in the past that we now regret, or gaining a new perspective on habitual patterns of relating that we’ve started to outgrow.
As we widen the scope of our integration work, we may meet transgressions committed by our ancestors, or discover how legacies of perpetration carried out at the collective level — from war crimes and genocide to racial oppression and gender-based violence — live on in our own system, shaping our perceptions of ourselves and each other in limiting ways.
In this episode, Thomas Hübl shares core mystical principles for working with the “shadow trauma” of perpetration at the individual, inter-generational and collective scales, and why he sees this work as so essential at this time.
A key dimension of his approach relates to the spiritual principle of grace.
When people suffer trauma as a result of experiencing transgressions committed by others, the flow of grace is much more readily available to support the healing process, Thomas says.
But when we commit acts of perpetration — whether as individuals or collectives —then access to grace can be drastically curtailed. The parts of our nervous system that might allow us to feel what we have done to the other are shut down. It thus takes a special effort on behalf of the perpetrator to overcome the unconscious impulse to turn away from past transgressions committed and instead look clearly at what happened. That act of turning-towards the ethical violations can allow grace once again to flow.
“On the transgressor side, we have to be awake enough to say, ‘I want to look at this,'” Thomas says. “And that motivation comes out of a growing sense of love and compassion and responsibility that wants to restore the ethical confusion. Then it reactivates grace, and then support comes.”
Other key takeaways from this episode include:
Thomas’ concept of ‘Divine Law’ and its relationship to internal alignment and right action
How the healing process might bring us into contact with pain we had previously numbed and why that’s a sign of progress
The importance of healing communities in meeting transgression
Finding a healthy relationship to our ancestral lineage
The connection between our integrated trauma and global events
How healing perpetration trauma restores Divine Law and opens up new pathways for ethical action
Why peace is not the absence of conflict — but arises from cultivating our capacity to stay in relation when we disagree
This lively and accessible dialogue offers core insights into some of the most challenging aspects of individual and collective healing work and the mystical principles that can orient us even in the face of life’s darkest shadows.
This conversation was first published on Thomas’ Point of Relation podcast.
For an introductory dialogue between Thomas and Matthew on healing and awakening, please click here to access last week’s episode of What Is Collective Healing?
Related Pocket Project Programmes:
Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training).
Further Resources:
Point of Relation podcast (with Thomas Hübl)
About Thomas Hübl:
Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.
His new book, co-authored with Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is called Releasing Our Burdens: A Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral and Collective Trauma. Thomas is also the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

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