3rd Side Convo

3rd Side Convo
Podcast Description
Over a decade ago, while guest lecturing on financial success at a nearby college, Bob conceived the idea of Uberdiscourse. He realized that meaningful political discussions could happen if politicians were excluded from the conversation. This led to The 3rd Side Convo, where they use the Uberdiscourse style, never mentioning politicians or their actions, making their discussions uniquely focused on ideas. Bob shared this concept with a friend who had a studio, and they recorded their first session the next day. They have been collaborating for the past five years.
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The podcast covers a range of themes such as immigration debates, political accountability, societal issues like book banning, tariffs, and cultural commentary. Notable episodes include discussions on the ethical implications of deportation and questioning the concept of term limits for politicians, each focusing on presenting diverse viewpoints.

Over a decade ago, while guest lecturing on financial success at a nearby college, Bob conceived the idea of Uberdiscourse. He realized that meaningful political discussions could happen if politicians were excluded from the conversation. This led to The 3rd Side Convo, where they use the Uberdiscourse style, never mentioning politicians or their actions, making their discussions uniquely focused on ideas. Bob shared this concept with a friend who had a studio, and they recorded their first session the next day. They have been collaborating for the past five years.
On this episode of Third Side Convo, we dive into one of the most polarizing topics in American politics: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Is ICE a necessary tool for national security, or has it become an unchecked, overgrown agency operating above the law?
Host Bob Phipps moderates a spirited and deeply layered conversation with panelists Stacia Boyd, Brandon Berger, Michelle Walters, and Bill Russell. Each guest brings their unique experiences and perspectives—from national security and legal accountability to humanitarian concerns and firsthand community impact.
Topics we cover include:
• The expansion of ICE into a paramilitary-scale force
• Oversight and accountability in enforcement
• Humanitarian crises and asylum claims
• Due process and constitutional protections
• The ethics and logistics of deportation
• Bipartisan failures and missed opportunities for reform
• What common ground might actually look like
This episode doesn’t shy away from the hard questions—but it also reveals surprising areas of agreement across the aisle. If you’re ready to explore immigration policy beyond slogans and soundbites, this one’s for you.
Watch, comment, and subscribe to join the conversation. Let’s lean in—not lean out.

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