The Learning Curve

The Learning Curve
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I’m Tom Lindley, and The Learning Curve is my not-so-polished attempt at figuring life out — one conversation at a time. I sit down with people from all walks of life to explore their biggest lessons, mindset shifts, and moments that changed everything. It’s not always deep, it’s definitely not perfect, but hopefully you’ll take something away (even if it’s just mild entertainment).
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The podcast focuses on personal development, entrepreneurship, and life experiences, with episodes covering topics such as building a supplement brand from scratch, overcoming self-doubt, and the subjective nature of success. The conversation with Tom Wolfe, for instance, illustrates the challenges of starting a business with limited resources and the lessons learned from setbacks.

I’m Tom Lindley, and The Learning Curve is my not-so-polished attempt at figuring life out — one conversation at a time. I sit down with people from all walks of life to explore their biggest lessons, mindset shifts, and moments that changed everything. It’s not always deep, it’s definitely not perfect, but hopefully you’ll take something away (even if it’s just mild entertainment).
In Episode 5 of The Learning Curve, I sat down with Marcus Pereira — founder of the Mean & Clean sobriety movement and someone who, as of recording, is 588 days sober.
Marcus has lived it all — addiction, relapse, rebuilding, and now leadership. Through Mean & Clean, he’s helped thousands find strength in sobriety. His videos have racked up over 18 million views and 74,000 followers on Facebook by connecting with people where it matters most — at the human level.
He’s also a Wolf Supplements sponsored athlete and an all-round powerhouse of discipline, heart, and hustle. In this episode, we unpack his story — but also dig into the mindset, business principles, and structure that have kept him not just clean, but thriving.
Some of the most powerful insights came from how Marcus approaches business, identity and accountability — and how he’s turned pain into power in every part of life.🔑
In this conversation we cover:
– His 588-day (and counting) sobriety journey
– The birth and growth of Mean & CleanLessons from addiction that apply to business
– Why fitness saved him — and how it continues to anchor him
– Advice for those struggling in silence
– The power of structure, purpose, and taking ownership
– How Marcus balances business, family and his own healing
– Why consistency matters more than motivation
This one’s about overcoming demons, building discipline, and finding purpose on the other side of pain.
More Marcus and Mean & Clean:
YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/@MeanAndCleanUK
Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/marcus_mean_n_clean/
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