Roy's Training Improvement Café

Roy's Training Improvement Café
Podcast Description
How do people really learn? And what can you as a training expert learn from that to keep improving our training? That's what Roy de Vries, Learning Innovator at aNewSpring explores in Roy's Training Improvement Café.
Every 6 weeks he sits down with learning luminaries to go in depth and get practical on topics like workplace application & transfer effectiveness, goals & objectives, relevance & motivation, opportunity to learn and how to turn training into habits.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on key themes in learning and development, such as transfer effectiveness, relevance in training, and fostering behavioral change, with episodes exploring topics like the 12 levers of transfer effectiveness and the importance of managerial involvement in training.

How do people really learn? And what can you as a training expert learn from that to keep improving our training? That’s what Roy de Vries, Learning Innovator at aNewSpring explores in Roy’s Training Improvement Café.
Every 6 weeks he sits down with learning luminaries to go in depth and get practical on topics like workplace application & transfer effectiveness, goals & objectives, relevance & motivation, opportunity to learn and how to turn training into habits.
Episode 01 – Britt Brackenie on the 12 Levers of Transfer Effectiveness
In this very first episode of the renewed Training Improvement Café, Roy sits down with Britt Brackenie—co-founder of Route12 and passionate advocate of practical learning transfer. Together, they explore what really makes training stick and how to create learning experiences that actually lead to behavioral change at work.
💡 Spoiler alert: It’s not just about what happens in the training itself.
About Britt
Britt Brackenie is a co-founder of Route12 and helps L&D professionals design impactful learning journeys. With a background in Human Resource Management and a fascination for creating meaningful experiences, Britt now focuses on improving training transfer based on research by Dr. Ina Weinbauer-Heidel.
What you'll learn in this episode:
Why Britt once considered becoming a funeral coordinator (!)
How the 12 levers of transfer effectiveness help L&D pros create more effective programs
How to use the transfer card game to reflect on existing training
Why clear transfer goals beat traditional learning objectives
The role of managers and peers in successful transfer
Small changes with big impact, like writing letters to managers
Why “What’s your biggest takeaway?” might not be the best closing question
Episode highlights
[00:01:00] – Why Roy loves the topic of transfer
[00:05:00] – Britt’s “aha” moment that led to Route12
[00:10:00] – What are transfer goals, and how do they differ from learning goals?
[00:14:00] – Playing the transfer card game with a cybersecurity training case
[00:35:00] – Can you ever cover all 12 levers in one training?
[00:39:00] – Why a letter to the manager might work better than a letter to yourself
[00:44:00] – Britt’s take on the most overrated L&D advice
Resources mentioned
Britt’s inspirations
Julie Dirksen – blending learning science with behavioral science
Lavinia Mehedintu (Offbeat) – thought leader in L&D curation
Dr. Alaina Szlachta – specialist in evaluation and data-driven training improvement
Quick tips to apply right away
Try ending your next training with transfer planning, not just reflection
Get participants to write a letter to their manager with their key insights and next steps
Involve managers before and after training with simple 15-min conversations
Use transfer goals (not learning objectives!) to clarify desired behavior change
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