Creating Value in Schools
Creating Value in Schools
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How can we make schools more sustainable – in all senses of the word? How can school leaders promote a sustainable way of working? Make best use of our resources, in a way that’s good for people and planet? In conversation with school leaders, we exchange insights and ideas.
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Explores themes of sustainability in schools, diversity and inclusion strategies, income generation, and leadership challenges with episodes addressing school-community engagement and creating positive organizational cultures.

How can we make schools more sustainable – in all senses of the word? How can school leaders promote a sustainable way of working? Make best use of our resources, in a way that’s good for people and planet? In conversation with educators, we exchange insights and ideas. Hosted by Liz Worthen, an educator, researcher and writer, whose career in education spans teaching, training and content development. For more from the Creating Value in Schools community, visit www.createvalueschools.com
In this episode, Liz Worthen explores what happens when we listen first – and how it can actually save time and lead to better outcomes in schools.
Aldaine Wynter, Director of International Mindedness, Diversity and Inclusion at Washington International School, reflects on spending his first year listening – meeting parents, staff and community groups before launching major initiatives, so he could “meet the community where they are.”
Sean Harris from Tees Valley Education shares how social listening transformed a glossy school newsletter into a termly community magazine, co-produced with families, children and local partners.
Leadership mentor Nickii Messer explores what it means to listen to understand in honest conversations – allowing space, avoiding assumptions, and using more collaborative language.
Wendy Litherland describes how asking a homeless charity what was really needed led pupils to create support for dogs as well as people – deepening empathy and impact.
Together, these examples show how listening first can build trust, strengthen collaboration, and lead to better outcomes in schools.
Liz Worthen is an educator, researcher, podcaster and writer. Her career in education spans teaching, training, commissioning and programme development, creating resources which enable leaders to flourish in their roles. Creating Value in Schools is about the exploration of sustainable working in education, to secure better outcomes for learners and communities.
- Download top tips for an honest conversation: https://createvalueschools.com/media/79-Honest-conversation-checklist-guide.pdf
- More from Sean Harris on social listening in practice: https://createvalueschools.com/blog/social-listening-in-practice-books-beds-and-curious-myth-busting/
- Fishbone analysis and five whys strategy: https://www.sec-ed.co.uk/content/best-practice/school-leadership-how-to-respond-to-and-solve-problems
- Join the Creating Value in Schools community: https://createvalueschools.com/subscribe/
Podcasts featured in this episode
- Listening to the community: diversity and inclusion strategies for lasting impact, with Aldaine Wynter
- Know your place: how to tackle inequality in education, with Sean Harris
- Call them honest: conversations to empower, understand and resolve, with Nickii Messer
- From prom shop to polytunnel: sustaining eco-activity in school, with Wendy Litherland
00:00 Why listening matters
00:45 Aldaine listening tour
01:40 Drop In Sessions
03:13 Sean social listening
03:48 Newsletter feedback
06:12 Trust and coproduction
07:06 Nickii honest conversations
10:10 Assumptions and truth
10:53 Wendy unexpected needs
11:55 Dog bags breakthrough
12:45 Key takeaways and wrap
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