Bill & Jerry's Excellent Podcast: Spilling The Career Tea
Bill & Jerry's Excellent Podcast: Spilling The Career Tea
Podcast Description
Join Bill Fisse and Jerry Goldstein as they unlock the secrets to career success, one insightful conversation at a time. Whether you're a student, graduate, mentor, or seasoned professional, this podcast is your go-to guide for navigating the twists and turns of professional life.From first jobs to bold career changes, Bill and Jerry bring real talk, expert insights, and practical strategies to help you thrive in today's job market. Expect candid advice, industry wisdom, and the occassional career blunder story - because learning from mistakes is just as valuable as learning from wins.If you're an early career professional, a mentor shaping the next generation, or just someone looking for career readiness skills, grab your coffee (or tea!) and tune in. Let's spill the career tea and set you up for success!
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Content Themes
The podcast covers a range of topics related to career success, including job search strategies, resume building, and networking tips. Episodes often feature discussions on transitioning careers and overcoming professional obstacles, such as 'Navigating Career Changes' and 'The Importance of Mentorship in Professional Growth'.

Join Bill Fisse and Jerry Goldstein as they unlock the secrets to career success, one insightful conversation at a time. Whether you’re a student, graduate, mentor, or seasoned professional, this podcast is your go-to guide for navigating the twists and turns of professional life.
From first jobs to bold career changes, Bill and Jerry bring real talk, expert insights, and practical strategies to help you thrive in today’s job market. Expect candid advice, industry wisdom, and the occassional career blunder story – because learning from mistakes is just as valuable as learning from wins.
If you’re an early career professional, a mentor shaping the next generation, or just someone looking for career readiness skills, grab your coffee (or tea!) and tune in. Let’s spill the career tea and set you up for success!
Dr. Allison McWilliams, Assistant VP of Mentoring and Alumni Personal & Career Development at Wake Forest University, shares her journey and the evolution of Wake Forest’s innovative approach to career services. She emphasizes the importance of mentorship, intentional career planning, and holistic development for students and alumni.
This episode includes:
Thoughts from her book Five For Your First Five, Allison outlines five essential areas for early career success:
- Doing Work Well: Show up, be reliable, and learn how to succeed in a professional setting.
- Building a Life: Manage time, finances, health, and hobbies—especially important for graduates used to structured schedules.
- Creating Community: Find mentors, sponsors, and peers who align with your values.
- Practicing Reflection: Seek and respond to feedback; treat every experience as data for growth.
- Planning What’s Next: Use what you’ve learned to make informed career moves—not perfect ones, but intentional ones.
Allison talks about Values-Driven Decision Making
- Graduates are encouraged to reflect on what matters most to them and align their work and life accordingly.
- Allison cautions against pressure to “find your passion” immediately, noting the privilege and complexity behind that narrative.
Permission to Be Happy
- It’s okay to stay in a job you love, even if it’s been years.
- Career paths are individual, and success should be defined by personal fulfillment, not external timelines.
Allison’s advice helps graduates navigate uncertainty, build confidence, and make intentional choices.
Her framework offers a practical roadmap for the first five years after college, blending career strategy with emotional intelligence.

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