Joseph Carter-Brown sits down with longtime friend and former imaginary rap group (don’t ask) Zebra Thugz collaborator John Williams to talk about parenting teenage boys, overcorrecting for your own childhood, and what happens when your kid treats a Nutty Buddy and a Dr. Pepper like a complete meal.

From baseball meltdowns to roof-climbing toddlers to post-game pep talks that absolutely did not land, this one’s full of hard-earned wisdom, petty frustrations, and the quiet horror of realizing you may have accidentally raised someone just like you.

Pro tip: If you're the neighbor of someone with kids and find yourself wondering, “Do they know their baby is on the roof?” — rest assured the answer is always no.