Peter sits down with Dr. Jon Lundgren, an ambitious scientist and a farmer who has been part of our team since 2013, when he worked with Peter to assemble  the research team featured in the docuseries Roots So Deep (you can see the devil down there). 

Dr. Lundgren is an agroecologist, Director of the ECDYSIS Foundation, and CEO for Blue Dasher Farm. He received his PhD in Entomology from the University of Illinois in 2004, and was a top scientist with USDA-ARS for 11 years before resigning to focus on alternate agricultural practices.

Jon’s work focuses on the alarming loss of biodiversity on farm land, including critical pollinators and other insect life. As he says “That system is collapsing, and what's replacing it is exactly what you're talking about. It's farming with a connection to the natural world. It's farming with a connection to family and to community in ways that the industrialized food system really pulled out. We're going to be able to offset all of our carbon emissions using our food system while increasing life on the planet,as well as reversing desertification and improving the resilience of our rural communities and human health problems.” 

Through the years, Jon taught Peter a lot. And there's one elemental thing he'll never forget. That farmers are the true scientists, and that the Roots So Deep science team was there only to measure what the farmers were doing and not get in their way. 

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