In this powerful and wide-ranging episode, Suzy sits down with Dr Deepak Ravindran, consultant in pain medicine, lifestyle medicine practitioner, and lead of one of the UK’s NHS Long Covid clinics. Together, they dive deep into what long Covid really is a complex, whole-system condition that cannot be fixed by a single pill, scan or protocol.

Drawing on his experience treating chronic pain, fatigue syndromes and post-viral conditions, Dr Ravindran explains why the traditional “one symptom, one specialist” model falls short, and how a more holistic, compassionate, and science-backed approach can make a profound difference.

Dr Ravindran introduces his MINDSET protocol (Medication, Interventions, Neuroscience & Stress, Diet, Sleep, Exercise, Therapies of Mind & Body) as a practical framework for recovery. Suzy and Dr Ravindran discuss how patients can safely use these pillars to calm a sensitised nervous system, reduce inflammation, rebuild resilience, and regain a sense of agency when tests come back “normal” but symptoms remain debilitating.

Together they explore:

• Why long Covid pain often stems from nervous system sensitivity rather than structural damage

• How gentle movement, visualization and pacing can help even on your worst days

• The immense value of community, group support and feeling understood

• Why lifestyle medicine is becoming essential for long Covid recovery

• The mindset shifts needed when the “silver bullet” drug may never come

Whether you’re navigating long Covid yourself, supporting someone who is, or simply wanting to understand this condition better, this episode blends evidence, empathy and truly actionable advice leaving listeners with clarity, comfort and hope.