In this episode of Zero Trusts Given, host Tom Tittermary speaks with retired General Robert Skinner about the evolving role of Zero Trust across the Department of Defense. Drawing on decades of experience, Skinner emphasizes that Zero Trust is an ongoing journey—not a fixed endpoint—centered on resilience, identity, and continuous improvement against adversaries. The conversation explores key trends like the growing importance of identity, the balance between standardized solutions such as Thunderdome and flexible architectures, and the expanding role of AI in both cyber defense and attack. They also highlight persistent challenges around data visibility, logging, and cultural barriers, underscoring that achieving true Zero Trust requires both technological advancement and a shift in mindset across the organization.