The PIVOT: Beyond the Map into the Territory with Dave Schoof
The PIVOT: Beyond the Map into the Territory with Dave Schoof
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The PIVOT is a shift in our lives that allows us to be less bound to our past experiences, habits, and ways of figuring the world out. We still carry with us our wisdom, skills, and sense of ourselves, but we also make room for new ways of seeing, doing, navigating, and checking. This show will explore how to thrive while navigating with cutting-edge thinkers, practitioners, and pioneers.
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The show centers around themes of personal transformation, uncertainty, and the art of surrender, with episodes like 'Pivoting into Possibility' featuring discussions on embracing the unknown and exploring emerging possibilities.

A podcast exploring the intelligence beyond optimization. For leaders who sense that navigating today’s complexity requires more than better strategies – it requires consciousness, paradox-holding, and new ways of seeing what’s actually happening.
What does leadership look like when the old maps stop working — and the social contracts that guided your career have dissolved?
In this second conversation with JJ Vega, leadership coach and founder of Art of Unfolding, Dave Schoof goes deeper into the territory most leadership development avoids: grief as a necessary passage, natural cycles as an organizational practice, and the embodied awareness that makes a genuinely different kind of leadership possible. Drawing on William Bridges’ transition model and their shared background in somatic and consciousness-informed coaching, Dave and JJ explore what it actually takes to lead well through endings — not just survive them.
In this episode:
- Grief as a leadership skill — why it belongs in the room
- The neutral zone: what lives between endings and new beginnings
- Resilience vs. permeability — replacing the wall with a membrane
- Regenerative leadership: honoring fallow seasons, natural cycles, and rest
- Embodied awareness as the foundational leadership practice
- Rewilding the human being — and the organizations we lead
Guest: JJ Vega is a leadership coach working at the intersection of the inner world and organizational impact. Together, we cover emergence as a leadership practice, somatic intelligence, edge walkers, the disintegrating success template, and whether the Hero’s Journey needs a postmodern update.
CONNECT WITH JJ VEGA
Website: artofunfolding.org
Inside Out Leadership: leadinsideout.io
Co-Creation Loft Berlin: co-creation.loft
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jj-vega/
🔗 CONNECT WITH DAVE
Website: daveschoof.com
The Pivot Newsletter: [https://tinyurl.com/4vn8832a]
Substack: [https://dschoof.substack.com]
Podcast: [https://thepivotpodcast.net/?v=zm7s]
LinkedIn: [https://www.linkedin.com/in/daveschoof/ ]

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