The PIVOT: Beyond the Map into the Territory with Dave Schoof
The PIVOT: Beyond the Map into the Territory with Dave Schoof
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The PIVOT is a shift in our lives that allows us to be less bound to our past experiences, habits, and ways of figuring the world out. We still carry with us our wisdom, skills, and sense of ourselves, but we also make room for new ways of seeing, doing, navigating, and checking. This show will explore how to thrive while navigating with cutting-edge thinkers, practitioners, and pioneers.
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The show centers around themes of personal transformation, uncertainty, and the art of surrender, with episodes like 'Pivoting into Possibility' featuring discussions on embracing the unknown and exploring emerging possibilities.
The PIVOT is a shift in our lives that allows us to be less bound to our past experiences, habits, and ways of figuring the world out. We still carry with us our wisdom, skills, and sense of ourselves, but we also make room for new ways of seeing, doing, navigating, and checking. This show will explore how to thrive while navigating with cutting-edge thinkers, practitioners, and pioneers.
There’s an anxiety humming beneath everything—like tinnitus that never stops. You feel it in leadership meetings where reactions explode out of proportion. In hair-trigger responses to small disruptions. In that 3am wakefulness that’s become a collective companion.
In this second conversation, Rob McNamara and I go deep into the question: How do we metabolize the poly-crisis, both personally and relationally—rather than being consumed by it?
We explore why survival mode has already lost the game, how intimacy with death becomes intimacy with life, and why relational space holds untapped generative power. We also discuss a simple practice to let life move through you, rather than against you.
This episode is especially for leaders, founders, and coaches ready to navigate complexity beyond survival—those seeking to develop the sensitivity to dance with uncertainty and access the intelligence that emerges between us.
About Rob McNamara:
Rob is an expert in adult development, performance, and transformational leadership. He is the author of The Elegant Selfand teaches at the intersection of human development, relational intelligence, and inner work. Learn more at robmcnamara.com
Key quote: “Enlightenment isn’t intimacy with all things—it’s intimacy AS all things.”
Topics include:
The grip and the open hand: how contraction blocks clarity
What it means to be radically available to life
Reclaiming presence and potency in relational space
Why doing less can create more impact in complexity
Episode Highlights:
00:02:05 – Why complexity feels so personal
00:07:43 – The grip and the open hand: contraction vs clarity
00:17:15 – Intimacy with death and the generativity of mortality
00:27:40 – The intelligence arising in relational space
00:36:12 – A somatic practice for metabolizing overwhelm
00:49:00 – Redefining leadership in complex times
00:57:30 – Becoming radically available to life
To explore the Pivot Podcast or my coaching work, visit daveschoof.com.
If this episode resonated, please subscribe—or forward it to someone navigating these times.
Production and Music composition: Phil Schoof
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