Excavating the True Self: Discovering the Values That Shape Our Leadership

Show Notes

In this episode of the INSPIRE Podcast, Drew Lawson and Steve Nadig continue their exploration of Identity and Not Identity by turning inward—to the heart of our True Self. After unpacking false and unwanted identities in earlier episodes, they now focus on the inner circle: clarifying the core values that define who we are and guide how we lead.

Drew introduces his decades-in-the-making Values Clarification Framework, a set of reflective exercises designed to surface the words and energies that bring us most alive. Together, Drew and Steve model the process in real time—sharing candid stories, honest self-reflections, and even a few laughs as they rediscover what matters most.

Steve shares how altruism has shaped his life and leadership, while Drew reveals his distilled values of inspiration, whimsy, and embrace—and how they serve as antidotes to his “hyper-rational” saboteur. Their dialogue highlights the tension between our protective patterns and our authentic energy, showing that the key to growth isn’t perfection but awareness.

From Viktor Frankl to Brené Brown, from traffic metaphors to Japanese proverbs, the conversation is both practical and deeply human. As Drew reminds us, quoting Daniel Harkavy:

“Leadership is the decisions we make and the influence we have. When those decisions come from our true identity, that’s our calling.” 🔑 Key Takeaways

• Slowing down to speed up: Reflection fuels authentic action.

• Values as a lens: Clarity brings alignment to choices and relationships.

• Energy matters: Fear drains, love replenishes.

• Less is more: Focus on one to three guiding values.

• Authenticity over activity: True leadership flows from identity, not image.

Memorable Quotes “To unearth buried treasure, we have to dig deep into our soul.” — Drew Lawson “You can’t lead authentically until you’ve done this work.” — Steve Nadig “One is fear and me; the other is love and we.” — Drew Lawson

Reflection Prompt

What’s one value that energizes you when you live it—and drains you when you ignore it?

Resources Mentioned

• Daniel Harkavy — Becoming a Coaching Leader

• Brené Brown — Dare to Lead

• Viktor Frankl — Man’s Search for Meaning

• Building Champions Values Clarification Tool