Around the Ladder
Around the Ladder
Podcast Description
Welcome to Around the Ladder – the podcast where we explore the twists, turns, and unexpected detours of career journeys. Many of us are familiar with the phrase ”climbing the corporate ladder,” but what happens when your path doesn’t follow a straight line?
I became fascinated by the idea of going around the ladder – carving out a different kind of career path. My own journey took this route. After 25 years as an employee, I stepped away for a year and emerged as a consultant and business owner. And along the way, I realized I’m not alone. There are so many people out there whose careers have taken unconventional, surprising, and inspiring directions.
In this podcast, you’ll hear conversations with people who have traveled paths of all shapes and sizes. Sometimes you backtrack or move sideways; other times, you need someone to lift you up or simply sit with you right where you are.
No matter where you are on your journey, you’re not alone.
So, whether you’re rethinking your next step or just curious about the many ways a career can unfold, you’re in the right place.
This is Around the Ladder – let’s explore the journey together.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast covers themes of career development, personal growth, and entrepreneurship, with episodes discussing topics such as career pivots illustrated by Anne Ryan's transition from tech to coaching, the importance of reframing resumes, and creating supportive environments for personal development.

Welcome to Around the Ladder – the podcast where we explore the twists, turns, and unexpected detours of career journeys. Many of us are familiar with the phrase ”climbing the corporate ladder,” but what happens when your path doesn’t follow a straight line?
I became fascinated by the idea of going around the ladder – carving out a different kind of career path. My own journey took this route. After 25 years as an employee, I stepped away for a year and emerged as a consultant and business owner. And along the way, I realized I’m not alone. There are so many people out there whose careers have taken unconventional, surprising, and inspiring directions.
In this podcast, you’ll hear conversations with people who have traveled paths of all shapes and sizes. Sometimes you backtrack or move sideways; other times, you need someone to lift you up or simply sit with you right where you are.
No matter where you are on your journey, you’re not alone.
So, whether you’re rethinking your next step or just curious about the many ways a career can unfold, you’re in the right place.
This is Around the Ladder – let’s explore the journey together.
In this episode of Around the Ladder, host Erika Steinberg welcomes Sarah Pew, founder of Sarah Pew Consulting, for a conversation about entrepreneurship, authenticity, and operational clarity. Sarah has built her consulting practice on helping small businesses thrive by turning chaos into clarity, through systems, scalable processes, and strong messaging.
Together, Erika and Sarah dig into how to simplify complex workflows, identify what really matters, and build businesses that reflect your personality and values. Sarah shares how her background, from education to tech startups to consulting, taught her that the key to growth isn’t doing everything; it’s doing the right things well.
Listeners will learn:
Why streamlining operations always starts with clarity, not technology
How process mapping can uncover deeper truths about your business and your message
The power of “picking one thing” and focusing on what you love most
How owning your voice and your brand can unlock confidence and freedom
What it means to “be yourself” in a business world that often asks for conformity
Whether you’re refining your offer, creating systems to scale, or working to align your business with who you are, Sarah’s story is a refreshing reminder that you get to pick, your clients, your work, and how you show up.
Connect with Sarah:
Website: sarahpew.notion
LinkedIn: Sarah Pew

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