On the Fringe
On the Fringe
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This podcast looks at union fringe benefits and all the entities and perspectives surrounding them. Brought to you by EPRLive.
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The podcast centers on topics related to union fringe benefits, industry challenges, and technological advancements, with episodes that explore specific challenges faced by contractors, the importance of relationships in benefit reporting, and insights on labor negotiations and mentorship in the electrical industry.

This podcast looks at union fringe benefits and all the entities and perspectives surrounding them. Brought to you by EPRLive.
The electrical workforce is changing – and benefits, training, and leadership are being tested in real time. Luke Kuhl, Executive Chairman of the Twin Cities Chapter of NECA, shares frontline insights on how contractors are navigating AI-driven demand, data center expansion, wage pressure, and the growing need for specialized talent.
The conversation also explores why strong leadership (not just new technology) will determine who thrives, and what these shifts mean for small contractors, union members, and the future of fringe benefits in the trades.
Tune in to this episode as we explore:
(00:50) Luke Kuhl’s work at NECA
(04:46) Rising costs and market consolidation
(08:14) Future workforce needs in data centers
(13:41) Contractor roles and union politics
(17:12) Small contractors struggling to compete
(22:59) The future of computing and energy
(26:36) Challenges facing unionized electrical contractors
(27:43) Uncertainty in a union electrician’s career
(32:50) Standardization challenges in the electrical code
(36:18) The future of fault-managed power
(38:08) AI’s ripple effect on innovation
(43:24) Innovation among large contractors
Links mentioned in the episode:
Planet Money: What AI Data Centers Are Doing to Your Electric Bill
https://www.npr.org/2025/12/19/nx-s1-5649814/ai-data-center-electricity-bill
Smart Talks w/ IBM: Creating Smarter Business with AI and Quantum
https://www.ibm.com/think/podcasts/smart-talks/creating-smarter-business-with-ai-and-quantum?act2
Luke Recommended Best Podcast for Understanding Data Centers:
Step Change: Data Centers – The Hidden Backbone of Our Modern World
https://www.stepchange.show/data-centers
Luke Recommended Best Company-Focused Discussion of AI and Data Centers:
Acquired: Google – The AI Company
https://www.acquired.fm/episodes/google-the-ai-company
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