In this episode, I sat down with Alan Gardner — CEO of RX Results and a seasoned leader in the healthcare industry. We unpacked the massive complexity behind self-insurance, drug pricing, and the forces that shape how prescriptions are marketed and chosen. Alan broke it all down in plain terms, sharing not just the business mechanics, but also how his faith serves as a compass in an industry where financial incentives often drive decision-making.

We talked about building ethical culture inside a company, how RX Results takes on Goliath-sized players in the pharmacy benefit space, and why faith isn’t something Alan compartmentalizes — it’s something he integrates into how he leads, hires, and navigates tough decisions.

If you’re in healthcare, leadership, or just trying to build a business that doesn’t force you to check your values at the door, this episode is a must-listen.