Listen as  Niall and Roy delve into the world of nursing,  with the leader of the Royal College of Nursing (the  world's largest nursing union) Professor Nicola Ranger.
In a frank exchange, Nicola reflects on the crisis of recruitment and retention, the fact that nurses spend too much of their time on pointless tasks, the unprecedented levels of low morale and the possibility of strike action. 

Nicola believes there is an urgent need to reform nurse education, including in her personal view,  a national exam for every nurse wanting to join the register. 

This is a clarion call for reform within and beyond the profession, and a warning of an existential threat to the NHS if the government does not invest and start to value nurses.  

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