In this special two-part episode, host Mark O’Donnell welcomes back his first returning guest, Stephanie Zumbuhl of Abacus Grant Services, LLC. Stephanie shares how her business has rapidly scaled through the power of referrals, strategic partnerships, and a renewed focus on purpose-driven growth. From moving into new office space to building a dream team, Stephanie opens up about the growing pains and personal revelations that come with being a founder navigating rapid success.

In the second half, Mark sits down with Drew Brooks of RB Woodcraft—a family-run architectural millwork business with nearly 50 years of history. Drew reflects on his leadership journey, the company’s cultural transformation, and how they’re creating lasting client relationships by focusing on trust, adaptability, and service. He also shares how leadership development helped shape both his career and RB Woodcraft’s next generation of leaders.

Whether you’re growing a business, leading a team, or just trying to find balance in a fast-paced world, this episode is packed with valuable lessons in growth, grit, and operational excellence.