The Leadership Lab with Asbel Montes
The Leadership Lab with Asbel Montes
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Hosted by Asbel Montes, The Leadership Lab explores bold ideas, tough conversations, and real solutions shaping the future of healthcare and public service. Join leaders from across the industry as they share insights, stories, and strategies that inspire action and elevate impact.
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The podcast delves into themes related to healthcare finance, EMS challenges, and public service innovation. Specific episodes cover critical topics like the sustainable reimbursement models for EMS, the impact of data-driven insights on healthcare delivery, and the evolving roles of healthcare professionals. For example, the inaugural episode highlights the financial struggles of EMS and challenges listeners to rethink their approach to value-based care.

Hosted by Asbel Montes, The Leadership Lab explores bold ideas, tough conversations, and real solutions shaping the future of healthcare and public service. Join leaders from across the industry as they share insights, stories, and strategies that inspire action and elevate impact.
EMS has always answered the call. But what if the system that created EMS is the very thing holding it back?
In this Clarity Special Edition of The Leadership Lab, Asbel Montes sits down with Dr. Hawnwan Philip Moy, Emergency Physician, EMS Medical Director, and incoming President of the National Association of EMS Physicians (NAEMSP), to make the case for why physicians must step into the room where healthcare policy is written.
Recorded live at Solutions Group’s 5th Annual Clarity User Summit in Laguna Beach, California, Dr. Moy breaks down the structural argument for moving EMS out of the Department of Transportation and into Health and Human Services, why the “you call, we haul, that’s all” reimbursement model is failing patients and providers alike, and what it actually costs when the system chooses reaction over prevention. He also issues a direct call to his physician colleagues: your clinical experience is more powerful in the policy room than you think. Stop waiting to be invited in.
Topics covered in this episode:
- The 1966 White Paper that put EMS under the DOT, and why that needs to change
- Why ground EMS crews that save lives but don’t transport go unpaid
- EMTALA, the uninsured, and the real cost of reactive medicine
- What NAEMSP’s next generation of leadership looks like
- How physicians can engage healthcare economics without needing an MBA
If you work in EMS, emergency medicine, healthcare administration, or policy, this conversation is for you.
ABOUT DR. HAWNWAN PHILIP MOY
Dr. Hawnwan Philip Moy is an Emergency Physician and EMS Physician at Mercy Hospital in Saint Louis and the Medical Director for the Missouri and Carbondale base of ARCH Air Methods Helicopter EMS. He serves as Secretary Treasurer of the National Association of EMS Physicians (NAEMSP) and is on track to become its next president. He is also the host of the But Why EMS Podcast and the Air Methods Prehospital EDucation Podcast, where he brings physician-level expertise to EMS practitioners and paramedics.
Listen to the But Why EMS Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/but-why-ems-podcast/id1435436833
ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP LAB
The Leadership Lab is hosted by Asbel Montes and produced by Solutions Group, a healthcare finance services firm helping healthcare organizations maximize reimbursement and drive innovation. The podcast explores the intersection of data, physician leadership, and healthcare transformation through the eyes of the patient.
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