Going Beyond the Deal
Going Beyond the Deal
Podcast Description
Welcome to Going Beyond The Deal. The show for founders, business owners, and professionals who want to grow smarter, achieve bigger exits, and build a legacy that lasts.
Your host is no other than, J. Michael Fischer Jr – connector, life-long student of personal growth, and Managing Director at DBD – a bespoke investment bank that helps businesses handle big financial moves.
Each week, we look beyond the numbers and the deals to talk about what really drives success.
You'll hear from entrepreneurs, strategists, and top performers about the mindset, habits, and decisions that help businesses — and people — keep moving forward.
If you're getting ready to sell, raise capital, or just level up — you're in the right place.
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The podcast covers themes such as business growth strategies, personal development, and the intricacies of deal-making. Notable episode topics include succession planning in architecture and the vital role of accountants as trusted advisors, highlighting the importance of relationships and mental fitness in maintaining performance.
Welcome to Going Beyond The Deal. The show for founders, business owners, and professionals who want to grow smarter, achieve bigger exits, and build a legacy that lasts.
Your host is no other than, J. Michael Fischer Jr – connector, life-long student of personal growth, and Managing Director at DBD – a bespoke investment bank that helps businesses handle big financial moves.
Each week, we look beyond the numbers and the deals to talk about what really drives success.
You’ll hear from entrepreneurs, strategists, and top performers about the mindset, habits, and decisions that help businesses — and people — keep moving forward.
If you’re getting ready to sell, raise capital, or just level up — you’re in the right place.
What if the future of business isn’t just about hiring more people, but about creating organizations where humans and AI collaborate to unlock 100x growth?
In this episode of the Going Beyond the Deal Podcast, J. Michael Fischer Jr. speaks with Amos Bar Joseph, co-founder and CEO of Swan AI, a company building AI agents designed to transform go-to-market operations for modern businesses. Amos shares how his childhood in a scientific community and his early career in game theory shaped his approach to problem-solving, entrepreneurship, and building companies that scale intelligently rather than just adding headcount.
From founding and selling two startups, including one that worked with major airlines worldwide, to pioneering the concept of an “autonomous business,” Amos explains why companies of the future will empower employees to work in their zone of genius while AI handles the repetitive, mundane tasks. This episode dives into AI adoption, organizational culture, mental health, and the radical ways technology is reshaping business.
Learn why ruthless prioritization and self-care are the keys to thriving as an entrepreneur in the AI era. If you’ve enjoyed this episode of the Going Beyond the Deal podcast, be sure to leave a review and subscribe today!
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Key takeaways:
- Why AI is one of the most intuitive technologies ever created, and how to embrace it in your business
- How to identify and operate within your “zone of genius”
- Why the future of work is about autonomy and vision alignment, not bureaucracy
- How Amos scaled Swan to over 200 customers with a three-person founding team
- The mental habits that help entrepreneurs avoid burnout
- Why marketing is about emotions, not just analytics
- How AI agents can 100x the effectiveness of every employee
- And much more…
Guest Bio:
Amos Bar Joseph is the co-founder and CEO of Swan AI, a company on a mission to build the first truly autonomous business by leveraging AI agents to transform go-to-market operations. An entrepreneur at heart, Amos previously founded and sold two tech companies. A graduate of Tel Aviv University’s PPE honors program, he is passionate about game theory, entrepreneurship, and helping businesses scale with intelligence rather than headcount.
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