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In the second half of my conversation with Jill McGowan, founder of Jill McGowan and creator of The Great White Shirt, we move beyond origin stories and into the heart of what it takes to sustain a values-driven business over decades.

Jill and I talk candidly about resilience—how setbacks are often as frequent as successes, and how her instinct has always been to focus on solutions rather than blame. One of my favorite moments in this episode is Jill’s story of being in New York City and spotting a woman in a café wearing one of her shirts. Encouraged by her sister, Jill introduced herself, only to hear the woman—an attorney—say that Jill McGowan shirts were her everyday go-to, with more than a dozen in her closet. It’s a powerful reminder of what it means to put your name on a product and truly stand behind it.

We also revisit two of the most challenging periods for small businesses: 9/11 and COVID. Jill describes traveling to New York shortly after 9/11 to attend a trade show despite fear, uncertainty, and canceled orders—choosing to “carry on” as a way of supporting the city and her industry. During COVID, she faced mandatory closures, laid off staff temporarily, and then pivoted decisively—bringing her production team back early to manufacture thousands of high-quality, multi-layered face masks when shortages became acute. That pivot kept the business alive and reinforced her belief in responsibility beyond profit.

Throughout the episode, Jill speaks with clarity about her commitment to integrity: sourcing exceptional fabrics, insisting on construction that lasts for years, and never compromising on quality—even when it would be easier or more profitable to do so. She shares how deeply she feels accountable to her customers, her team, and her own name, which is inseparable from the brand.

We close with reflections on Maine—why it continues to ground her creatively and personally. From childhood memories in Baxter State Park and Down East Maine, to the sense of community, authenticity, and quiet strength that defines the state, Jill describes Maine as both home and inspiration. For her, elegance in Maine is found in the air, the landscape, the people, and the values that endure.

✨ Key Themes

• Resilience as a daily business practice
• The power of seeing your work worn and loved by strangers
• Putting your own name on a brand—and the responsibility that brings
• Navigating 9/11 with intention, presence, and courage
• Pivoting during COVID to meet urgent community needs
• Why quality, integrity, and redundancy still matter
• Maine as a place of creativity, values, and enduring elegance

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