Martin Woodward spent over a decade as a lawyer at one of the larger Dutch firms. Now he’s Randstad’s Global Responsible AI Officer, and he has a blunt prediction: he’d be very surprised if the traditional law firm model survives the next few years unchanged.

Pim sits down with Martin to talk about what AI is doing to legal work, told from inside a company that’s already deep into it.

Randstad uses Google’s workspace solutions, which gave Martin’s team early access to enterprise-grade Gemini before most organizations had it. He also joined a Claude Code hackathon for lawyers and built a working EU AI Act risk-classifier app in about an hour, with zero coding background.

We get into:

• Why “training, training, and more training” is his only real defense against automation bias, the human habit of trusting whatever the computer says
• His worry that younger lawyers won’t develop the gut sense for when something’s off if they lean on AI from day one
• Whether specialized legal AI providers like Harvey and Legora can hold off the frontier labs now that Anthropic, OpenAI, and Microsoft have all targeted the legal market
• The Legora exec who openly said they’re going after the 1 trillion dollar legal services market, not the 40 billion dollar legal tech market
• Why relationships, one of the most human things lawyers have, might be the thing that saves the profession

Martin thinks the tipping point isn’t here yet, but it’s getting closer. The firms that survive will be the ones that can say exactly what’s still worth paying a human for.

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