In this soul-stirring conversation, Gerald Brooks welcomes AEDP therapist, writer, and teacher Karen Pando-Mars into the sacred space of The Eternal Student 360 Podcast. What begins as a question about career paths quickly unfolds into something deeper—a reflection on what moves us beneath the surface of identity, and how presence becomes a form of healing.

Karen shares how her curiosity about human motivation, first stirred while living in Peru, planted the seeds for her journey into psychology. The question, “What motivates people beneath culture?” became a lifelong pursuit, eventually leading her to AEDP and her collaboration with Diana Fosha on Tailoring Treatment to Attachment Patterns: Healing Trauma in Relationship.

She reflects with grounded wisdom on the clients who return after time away—how their re-entry often speaks to something deeper than scheduling. It’s not just about resuming therapy but about stepping back into a space where they once felt deeply seen and safe. In those moments, the therapeutic bond reveals itself as clinical and profoundly human, a quiet thread that endures, even in absence.

This episode is a meditation on the invisible yet deeply felt fabric of attachment—how we’re shaped by connection, called back by care, and held in ways that words alone can’t explain. For anyone curious about the heartbeat of healing relationships, this is a conversation worth sitting with.

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