NeLI Pod
NeLI Pod
Podcast Description
The official podcast of the National eDiscovery Leadership Institute. Here, we bridge the gap between technology and the law, bringing you the forefront of electronic discovery.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on themes such as technology in legal practice, eDiscovery best practices, the adoption of AI in law, and ethical considerations in digital evidence handling. Examples of specific episodes include discussions on AI's role in the judiciary, challenges of hyperlinked documents in eDiscovery, and the evolution of technology-assisted review methodologies.

The official podcast of the National eDiscovery Leadership Institute. Here, we bridge the gap between technology and the law, bringing you the forefront of electronic discovery.
Guest Details
Tom O’Connor
GUEST DETAILS:Litigation Support Consultant, Author, Educator, and Legal Technology Advocate
With more than 40 years in litigation support and legal technology, Tom O’Connor has helped guide the profession through the transition from banker boxes and Bates stamps to cloud computing, e-discovery, and AI. He is the author of eDiscovery for the Rest of Us and AI for the Rest of Us and has been a longtime champion of legal technology education.
EPISODE OVERVIEW:
Tom O’Connor joins Daniel Gold and Brandon Mack for a wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of legal technology and the people who helped shape it. Drawing on decades of experience, Tom reflects on the early days of electronic court records, Hurricane Katrina’s impact on technology adoption, the importance of cooperation in discovery, and the ongoing challenge of teaching lawyers the technical skills modern practice demands.
Along the way, he shares lessons from mentors like Browning Marean, discusses why e-discovery education still lags behind industry needs, and offers practical advice for the next generation of legal professionals navigating an era of rapid technological change.
KEY TAKEAWAYS and ACTION ITEMS:
- Technology advances faster than legal institutions. The profession often struggles to keep pace with the speed of innovation, from hosted data to AI.
- Katrina accelerated both technology adoption and cooperation. Lawyers learned the value of remote access, shared resources, and working together during a crisis.
- E-discovery should be taught as a core legal skill. Tom argues that lawyers need structured education on how data is created, stored, collected, and produced.
- Paralegals are often closest to the evidence. They develop practical knowledge about data and case records that many attorneys never see firsthand.
- Humility matters. In a field changing this quickly, continuous learning is more valuable than claiming expertise.
- Invest in technology training throughout your legal career.
- Support dedicated e-discovery and AI education in law schools and bar programs.
- Focus on cooperation and communication during discovery disputes.
- Seek mentors who can help navigate both law and technology.
CHAPTERS AND TIMECODES:
00:10 – Introduction & Tom’s Career Journey
05:24 – Early Legal Technology and Court Records
15:24 – Did Anyone See the Future Coming?
21:20 – Hurricane Katrina and the Cloud Shift
27:23 – Cooperation, Browning Marean & Discovery Culture
34:42 – Lessons from the Paralegal Perspective
40:37 – Why Law Schools Still Miss E-Discovery
43:34 – Technology Competence and Professional Responsibility
47:00 – Building the Ideal E-Discovery Curriculum
52:26 – Teaching, Mentorship & Learning from Failure
57:17 – Advice for the Next Generation
01:00:44 – The Future of Law and Technology
01:01:32 – Closing Remarks
COMPELLING QUOTE:
“There are no experts. This stuff changes so fast. When somebody says they know everything about all this stuff, that’s not the person you want to be talking to.”

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