This week, we’re sitting down with former California lawmaker Catharine Baker for a candid conversation about what it really takes to lead with integrity in today’s political climate. From her journey into public service to navigating the ever-changing landscape of the GOP, Catharine opens up about the power of civility, courage, and compromise—and why they matter now more than ever. We dive into how social media has reshaped politics, what bipartisanship looks like in practice, and how women can show up, speak up, and step into leadership roles that change the game.

Catharine represented the 16th Assembly District (Bay Area/East Bay) from 2014-2018. A University of Chicago graduate and UC Berkeley School of Law alumna, she began her legal career as a clerk for a U.S. District Court judge before practicing law. During her time in the State Assembly, she earned a reputation as a bipartisan problem-solver — in fact, all sixteen of the bills she authored that passed did so with bipartisan support. After leaving office, she continued public service as a Commissioner of the California Fair Political Practices Commission. Today, she serves as the Director of the UC Student & Policy Center in Sacramento, where she leads student-, faculty-, and policymaker-engagement initiatives for the University of California system.

With her insider view of the legislature, her commitment to civility in politics, and her focus on leadership grounded in values, Catharine brings a uniquely pragmatic and inspiring voice to our conversation. If you’ve ever wondered what it takes to make your voice heard in the room where decisions are made—this one’s for you.

Here are the episode takeaways:

• Courage isn’t optional—it’s essential. Leadership means showing up even when it’s uncomfortable.
• Your district comes first. True representation means listening before leading.
• Bipartisanship builds better policy. Collaboration > confrontation.
• Social media skews reality. Real change happens beyond the algorithm.
• Stay connected. Engaging with constituents is what keeps governance grounded.
• Progress beats perfection. Sometimes the win is making a bad bill…less bad.
• Politics is always evolving. Adaptation is the new superpower.
• Women are leading the charge. Their impact in politics is undeniable—and growing.
• Public service takes grit. Dedication and resilience are the real power tools.
• Relationships matter. Building trust across party lines makes democracy stronger.

And here’s the episode breakdown:

• 00:00 Introduction to Catharine Baker
• 08:28 The Journey to Public Office
• 14:06 Civility and Compromise in Politics
• 18:21 Navigating Political Challenges
• 27:56 The Evolution of the Republican Party
• 30:08 Reflections on Political Generations
• 33:41 The Rise of Partisan Politics
• 35:24 Engaging the Next Generation
• 38:40 The Impact of Social Media on Political Discourse
• 46:08 California's Political Landscape and Leadership Dynamics
• 55:42 The Role of the Governor vs. Legislature
• 59:48 Institutional Knowledge and Political Expertise
• 01:02:36 Legislative Accomplishments
• 01:07:03 Advice for Aspiring Politicians
• 01:09:21 Women to Watch

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