In this episode of Untold – The Best Kept Secrets of Utah, host Jon Spiesman sits down with Clay Christensen, President of Mountainland Technical College (M-Tech), to unpack the often overlooked but incredibly powerful world of technical and vocational education.

Clay shares how M-Tech became Utah’s leader in industry-driven, debt-free career training, with a staggering 99.7% of students graduating without student debt. They dive into the importance of partnerships with local businesses, why competency-based education is the future of workforce training, and how accessible, skill-based programs are changing lives and communities.

This conversation isn’t just about education — it’s about economic mobility, leadership evolution, and the legacy of creating opportunity for all.

💡 In this episode:
The ingredients to M-tech’s growth to the largest and best rated tech college in Utah
How technical colleges partner directly with industries to meet workforce needs
The future of competency-based, debt-free education
Clay’s personal vision for removing barriers and expanding opportunity
The leadership lessons that come with building a purpose-driven institution
If you care about education, leadership, and the future of workforce development — you need to hear this one.

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We hope you enjoyed this episode of Untold. 
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Untold is the podcast hosted by Jon Spiesman where we uncover the best-kept business secrets of Utah. Each week, we sit down with local entrepreneurs and business owners to explore their unique journeys, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the lessons they’ve learned along the way. Whether you’re building your own business or just love a good underdog story, you’ll find hidden gems of advice and inspiration in every episode.