What Happens Next?
What Happens Next?
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In seeking advice for his own career transition, Steve Morris reached out to former sports people who had recently retired. However, when he uncovered several stories that had ended in tragedy, he grew concerned for what he would face on his first Monday off work. In the first season of What Happens Next, Steve speaks to former Wallaby Ben Alexander, Olympic Legend Shane Gould, AFL Premiers Easton Wood & Tom Boyd, and Olympic Champion Mack Horton. [email protected]
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The podcast centers on themes of retirement, identity, and personal growth, with episodes featuring discussions on the challenges faced by athletes after elite competition, such as Ben Alexander's experience with life after rugby, Shane Gould's decision to leave the sport at the peak of her career, and the mental health struggles of AFL players Tom Boyd and Easton Wood.

When Steve Morris began weighing his own career transition, he went looking for answers. He reached out to former elite athletes who’d already faced the leap into life after sport, expecting stories of reinvention and hard-won wisdom. What he found instead were tales that, for some, ended in tragedy — and it left him more unsettled about his own looming Monday off than when he’d started.
What Happens Next is the result of that search: an unflinching, deeply human series of conversations with athletes who’ve walked away from the spotlight and had to figure out who they are without it.
In Season One, Steve sits down with former Wallaby Ben Alexander, Olympic legend Shane Gould, AFL premiership duo Easton Wood and Tom Boyd, and Olympic champion Mack Horton — each opening up about identity, loss, reinvention, and the question that haunts every retired athlete: what happens next?
Now, listen to Season 2 for What Happens Next.
From the warm waters of Durban's Indian Ocean coastline … to the biggest, most dangerous breaks on Hawaii's North Shore, this episode traces the extraordinary journey of 1977 world surfing champion Shaun Tomson.
Steve Morris travels to Santa Barbara to sit down with the man once ranked among the top ten surfers in history — and finds someone far warmer than the stern competitor he remembers from old photographs. Shaun opens up about his childhood in a beach-obsessed family shaped by his mother's survival of the WWII siege of Malta and his father's own shark-attack-defying love of the ocean, and how those early lessons in resilience and freedom set him on a path toward reshaping surfing forever.
The conversation moves through the birth of professional surfing itself — the fierce cultural clashes on Hawaii's North Shore, the founding of his apparel brand Instinct, and the discipline required to walk away from competition on his own terms in 1989.
But this episode's heart lies in what came after the trophies: the devastating loss of his teenage son Matthew, and how Shaun transformed unimaginable grief into a mission of purpose. Out of that darkness came the Surfer's Code — twelve simple lines, each beginning with ”I will” — a tool he's since carried into classrooms, boardrooms, prisons, and Ivy League leadership programs around the world.
This is a story about stoke, identity, and what happens when the thing that defines you disappears — and the deliberate choices that fill the space it leaves behind. Whether you're an athlete facing life after sport or simply someone standing at your own crossroads, Shaun's message is disarmingly simple: write your code, take the drop with commitment, and always paddle back out.

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