The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia
The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia
Podcast Description
As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
The podcast focuses on themes of entrepreneurship, financial literacy, social impact, and personal development, with episodes covering topics like the complexities of networking, the realities of startup life, and psychological aspects of burnout, including discussions on Stanford cheating rings and innovative yet humorous concepts like Bluetooth tampons.

As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.
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Chapters
00:00 Growing Up When Careers Weren’t an Option
01:12 Why She Went to India Instead of Getting Married
03:53 Starting Ms. Magazine
04:54 Abortion Rights Then, Now, and What to Do
07:31 Responding to Workplace Sexism
09:24 Building Things With Other Strong Women
10:44 Reflections on Confidence
12:21 Fashion as a Political Statement
13:39 Why America Has Never Had a Woman President
14:36 Staying in the Fight Without Burning Out
17:40 Legacy and Advice for the Next Generation
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📲 Support What We’re Building
Phoebe and Sophia aren’t just your hosts—they’re the founders of Phia, a fashion-tech app helping shoppers find the best prices across retail and resale. Download the app and help us grow → https://www.phia.com
About The Burnouts
The Burnouts brings you raw, unfiltered conversations with today’s top founders, creators, athletes, and culture-shaping entrepreneurs. Hosted by Stanford roommates turned startup co-founders Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni, the show goes beyond the headlines to reveal the real stories behind ambitious careers.
Past guests include Paris Hilton, Kris Jenner, Karlie Kloss, and more.
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