In the Church Library

In the Church Library
Podcast Description
Join Kelsey Kramer McGinnis and Marissa Franks Burt for conversation around popular Christian resources found in church libraries. The first season focuses on parenting books Kelsey and Marissa read as they wrote their forthcoming book The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families.
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The podcast centers on themes of Christian parenting, family dynamics, and the critique of evangelical literature, with episodes delving into specific books and their impact on contemporary Christian families, such as their forthcoming book The Myth of Good Christian Parenting.

Join Kelsey Kramer McGinnis and Marissa Franks Burt for conversation around popular Christian resources found in church libraries. The first season focuses on parenting books Kelsey and Marissa read as they wrote their forthcoming book The Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How False Promises Betrayed a Generation of Evangelical Families.
Join Marissa and Andrew Remington Rillera in the church library for today's bonus episode discussing Andrew's book Lamb of the Free: Recovering the Varied Sacrificial Understandings of Jesus's Death, his insight into the sacrificial system of the Torah, and the implications this has for our theories about atonement and family life.
Things mentioned in the episode:
–Andrew's article on Ephesians 2
–Hannah Bowman's article From Substitution to Solidarity: Towards an Abolitionist Atonement Theology
–Peter Leithart's critique of Andrew's book
–Andrew's response to Peter's critique
Find Andrew on X/Twitter and Bluesky
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Episode Chapter Markers:
3:21—Andrew's bio/introduction
6:23—Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) defined
22:20—Is PSA ”the Gospel”?
47:28—Significance of the ”washing” imagery in the sacrificial system
57:13—Where did we go wrong with our understanding of this imagery?
1:01:22—What are the implications for parenting?
1:18:43—Discussion of recent social media conversation on PSA & critiques of Andrew's book
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Connect with Marissa & Kelsey across social media
Marissa: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, YouTube, Facebook
Kelsey: Website, Substack, Instagram, Threads, Twitter, TikTok, BlueSky, Facebook
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