In this episode we are in rich dialogue with Dr. Kent Hoffman, internationally known authority on attachment and one of the creators of the Circle of Security, an often referenced model that has helped parents in their ability to create secure attachment.  He has given a powerful TEDx talk on the infinite worth of each and every one of us and has written the effective book, Raising a Secure Child.  In this conversation, he shows up with wisdom and vulnerability as he talks about coming out of a serious episode of depression and how tenderness was crucial to that.  We talk about how encountering our own pain, courageously and with compassion, is essential in creating authentic leadership, both when leading our own lives as well as when leading others.