The Survivors Podcast
The Survivors Podcast
Podcast Description
The Survivors Podcast was born out of a serendipitous connection between Gretchen and Lisa—two individuals with powerful, lived experiences in mental health and suicide survival. Gretchen, co-host of the award-winning Sh!t That Goes On In Our Heads met Lisa through PodMatch while searching for podcast guests. What was meant to be a short pre-call turned into a two-hour conversation that revealed a shared mission: to change the narrative around suicide, mental illness, and grief.Together, they created The Survivors to bring honest, unfiltered conversations about mental health into the mainstream. This podcast offers a unique dual perspective—one of surviving the loss of loved ones to suicide and the other of surviving one’s mental health challenges.By tackling topics often considered taboo, The Survivors provides a safe, empathetic space where the complexities of mental health, grief, and loss are explored with authenticity and hope. Join Gretchen and Lisa as they break down barriers, challenge stigma, and empower listeners to survive life, death, and everything.Subscribe now and be part of the conversation.
Podcast Insights
Content Themes
This podcast covers various critical topics within the realm of mental health, including suicide survival, grief, and stigma. Episodes often focus on personal narratives, such as Lisa’s impactful story of losing three loved ones to suicide and the discussion around how trauma affects individuals, as well as the importance of open dialogues to promote healing and reduce stigma.

Survival isn’t just about staying alive—it’s about finding the strength to rebuild, reclaim, and rise.
That’s the foundation of The Survivors Podcast, where three-time suicide loss survivor, author, crisis counselor, and mental health advocate Lisa Sugarman joins Natasha J. Layton—a multiple suicide attempt and loss survivor, advocate, sexual abuse survivor, and former member of the FLDS polygamy cult—to change the way we talk about suicide, survival, and mental health.
Through raw, unfiltered conversations, Lisa and Natasha explore the realities of surviving trauma, grief, abuse, mental illness, and everything in between—with honesty, hope, and humanity. Their unique perspectives—one shaped by profound loss, the other by unimaginable adversity—create a space where the hardest stories are told with compassion, courage, and vulnerability.
By opening up the conversations we’ve been taught to bury, The Survivors invites listeners into a safe, stigma-free community to reflect, connect, and heal. Together, Lisa and Natasha push past stigma, challenge everything we think we know about survival, and reveal that life after darkness can be filled with meaning, connection, and hope.
Subscribe now and join the conversation about surviving life, death, trauma, and everything in between.
*WARNING: This podcast mentions suicide, sexual abuse & trauma and may be triggering.
Episode Summary
This conversation delves into the complexities of parenting while grieving, exploring personal experiences of loss and the impact on family dynamics. Lisa & Natasha share their stories of navigating grief, the importance of vulnerability, and how to teach children about emotions and loss. They emphasize the cyclical nature of grief and the necessity of allowing children to witness their parents’ struggles, fostering compassion and understanding.
In this conversation, they explore the complexities of grief, family dynamics, and parenting. They reflect on personal experiences with loss, the importance of emotional expression, and the impact of generational patterns on parenting styles. The discussion emphasizes the significance of unconditional love and the necessity of being real with children, especially during difficult times. They also touch on the upcoming conversation about life in the FLDS community, highlighting the emotional weight of sharing personal stories.
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Takeaways
- Parenting is challenging even on the best days.
- Grief adds an overwhelming layer of stress to parenting.
- Moms often bear the brunt of emotional labor in families.
- Grief can be cyclical and affect parents long after a loss.
- It’s important to allow children to see their parents’ emotions.
- Vulnerability can teach children compassion and understanding.
- The impact of grief can change family dynamics significantly.
- Talking about mental health is crucial for families.
- Modeling emotional honesty helps children navigate their own feelings.
- Grief can create a sense of disconnection from reality. It’s okay to cry and express emotions.
- Unconditional love is vital in parenting.
- Breaking generational patterns can empower children.
- Grief can coexist with joy and meaningful relationships.
- Presence is more important than performance in parenting.
- Children need to see their parents as human.
- Showing vulnerability teaches resilience to children.
- Parenting through grief requires self-compassion.
- Children are witnesses, not caretakers of parental grief.
- Life is hard, but love and kindness can guide us.
Chapters
00:00 Navigating Parenting and Grief
03:09 The Weight of Grief on Parenting
05:55 Personal Stories of Loss and Grief
09:04 The Impact of Grief on Family Dynamics
12:04 Teaching Children About Grief
15:09 The Role of Vulnerability in Parenting
18:01 Breaking the Cycle of Silence Around Grief
24:27 Reflections on Grief and Family Dynamics
30:27 Breaking Generational Patterns in Parenting
35:34 Navigating Grief While Parenting
39:49 Upcoming Conversations on Life in the FLDS
Mental Health Resources
- If you or someone you know is struggling, please call 988 for help.
- The Survivors Podcast Website – https://thesurvivors.net/
- The HelpHUB™ – Mental health resources, tools, and support networks – https://www.thehelphub.co/
- National Domestic Violence Hotline – Call 1-800-799-SAFE (7223)
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See you next week! In the meantime, keep surviving.

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