Ex-army officer and former corporate GM Jimmy Burroughes burned out in 2017 after 16 to 18 hour days for two and a half years straight. Nine years later, he runs a leadership consulting business teaching other leaders to avoid his mistakes.

In this conversation with hosts Dr. Steve Jeffs and Erwin de Grave, Burroughes breaks down his 80% list, a daily habit for catching burnout before burnout takes hold, and the AEIOU framework for spotting burnout signs in a team. He explains why burnout peaks in the mid-30s to early 50s, and introduces three tiers of leadership: the village fisherman, the icebreaker, and the amplifier.

If you lead people, manage a team, or coach leaders through burnout, this episode gives you language and tools to use right away.