How can reframing diversity from a social justice lens to a business priority create real change? In this conversation, Michael Bach shares powerful insights on IDEA, LGBTQ+ inclusion, and how adversity can drive innovation. A must-watch for leaders, changemakers, and organizations looking to build resilience through inclusion.

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Episode Summary:

In this episode of Reframe for Resilience, Dr. Frank L. Douglas welcomes Michael Bach—author, speaker, and founder in the field of Inclusion, Diversity, Equity, and Accessibility (IDEA). Michael shares how reframing diversity work from a purely social justice issue to a business imperative creates lasting change in organizations.

From advocating for LGBTQ+ inclusion to leading diversity at KPMG and beyond, Michael discusses how shifting perspectives helped organizations drive innovation, improve employee engagement, and build resilience during challenging times. His insights highlight how reframing can unlock opportunities for both people and businesses.

Key Topics

• Michael Bach’s journey in IDEA work
• Reframing LGBTQ+ inclusion from advocacy to business perspective
• How IDEA supports employers’ real challenges (talent, markets, costs)
• The impact of trust and belonging on employee engagement
• Lessons from the 2008 financial crisis on collective resilience
• How adversity can drive innovation and long-term growth

Timeline Summary

00:00 – 02:00 | Michael Bach’s background in IDEA and LGBTQ+ advocacy

02:00 – 04:30 | The shift from personal advocacy to business-centered reframing

05:00 – 07:30 | How IDEA addresses employers’ challenges and creates lasting impact

08:00 – 09:30 | Employee responses and the importance of dignity and respect

10:00 – 11:30 | Example from 2008: employees sacrificing vacation days to save jobs

12:00 – 13:30 | Reframing adversity as an opportunity for innovation

Links & Resources:

• Learn more about Michael Bach: Michael’s Website
• Connect with Dr. Frank L. Douglas at Safe Haven Dialogues LLC
• Listen to more episodes at Reframe for Resilience Podcast

Closing Remark:

Reframing inclusion as a business necessity rather than only a moral obligation changes the game. Michael Bach shows us that when organizations focus on dignity, belonging, and innovation, resilience follows. This episode is a reminder that small shifts in perspective can unlock transformative change for both people and companies.