In the episode Dr. Joy interviews Dr. Dan Meltzer, an Emergency Physician who now works for a health insurance company. Dr. Meltzer is the Executive Medical Director for Regence Blue Shield of Idaho, a not-for-profit health insurance company serving more than 370,000 people. The discussion delves into Dr. Meltzer's unique career path, the challenges of integrating the business of medicine with the practice of medicine, and the importance of physician leadership in health care organizations in general, including health insurance companies. Dr. Meltzer shares insights on the evolving landscape of health care, the impact of health insurance on medical practice, and the ethical considerations in balancing patient care with necessary business functions to ensure viability of the health care system as a whole.