What if true safety isn’t about certainty, but finding solid ground with help from the magic of nature?

Here’s my conversation with Ben Campbell, a Leadership & Team Development Facilitator, certified Enneagram coach, and member of the Awakened Company Collective. Ben supports communities and teams in showing up at their best in moments that matter most – periods of stress, pressure, transition, and rapid change – while cultivating a deeper reciprocity with the natural world through nature-informed leadership training.

Ben first encountered the Enneagram as an early teen when it helped him make sense of his anxiety, and it has been a steady companion ever since, revealing deeper and deeper layers over the course of his life.

We explore his personal journey from atheism to a spirituality that holds the full spectrum of human experience: magic, mystery, nature, and the other-than-human world. Ben shares about how he has learned to discern the difference between healthy skepticism, gullibility, and seeing through the façade of spiritual asleepness.

In this conversation, we dive into:

✨ What the Enneagram offered Ben as a young person and how it continues to deepen over time

✨ Finding solid ground as a Type 6

✨ Rebelling from seduction of inherited ideas of safety and the courage to find his own way

✨ Rewilding the psyche through nature-based ritual and embodied practice and supporting the wild soul in modern life

…and more!

When we recorded this episode (now over six months ago), Ben shared his desire to expand his work with organizations. I’m so happy to share that since our conversation, he has completed his certification with The Awakened Company and has been focusing on working with teams across the U.S. and Canada, from healthcare and manufacturing to cleantech, and energy companies.

He also facilitates powerful retreats and immersive Enneagram experiences, bringing depth, embodiment, and ecological awareness into spaces that are often disconnected from the natural world.

Connect with Ben:

Instagram: @wildenneagram

https://bencampbellco.com/

BIG Enneagram Retreat [Body-based | Integrated in Nature |Grounded in Practice]: https://bigenneagramretreat.com/

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Here are some reflection questions—I’d love to hear from you in the comments!

* Have you ever rebelled against an inherited belief about what would keep you “safe”? What happened?

* What’s the difference, in your body, between healthy skepticism and fear-based suspicion?

* In moments of stress or uncertainty, what helps you find solid ground within yourself?

* What might it mean for you to reconnect with the wild, instinctual, or nature-based parts of your psyche?

* How did this interview deepen your understanding of Type 6 or the 6 in you?

* What insights or invitations are stirring in you after listening to this episode?

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