Our host interviews Miguel Hernando Torres Umba, a Colombian-born creative director, performer, and filmmaker whose work spans BBC, the National Theatre, Secret Cinema and the new Paramount horror film Primate, in which he plays Ben.

The episode traces Miguel’s journey from a hand-built neighborhood in Bogota to immersive theatre in the UK — his early street performances, training in corporeal mime, collaborations on large-scale shows like Rumble in the Jungle and Terminal 1, and his commitment to representation and community.

They also discuss Miguel’s role as the primate in Primate, his creative process and movement research, and his advice to young migrants: be open to opportunities, give your all, and support the next generation through projects like his Latinx youth theatre.