True Bill Talk
True Bill Talk
Podcast Description
From the Vanderbilt Project on Prosecution Policy, True Bill Talk is about getting to the truth of criminal prosecution in America right now: what it is, how people experience it, and how prosecutors can better serve their communities. Each episode podcast will feature in-depth conversations between Vanderbilt Law Professor Alissa Marque Heydari and prosecutors, policy experts, and advocates with diverse perspectives on the challenges and responsibilities of prosecution.
Produced by Kerry Hayes from Coeo Strategies, Collin Nixon, and Alissa Marque Heydari. Music by Ashot Danielian and Ivymusic.
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The podcast predominantly focuses on topics related to criminal prosecution, the role of prosecutors in society, and the impact of policies on communities. Episodes delve into themes like prosecutorial discretion, the death penalty, and local justice issues, highlighted by discussions such as the one with Buncombe County DA Todd Williams, who addresses the nuances of serving a progressive city in the South.

From the Vanderbilt Project on Prosecution Policy, True Bill Talk is about getting to the truth of criminal prosecution in America right now: what it is, how people experience it, and how prosecutors can better serve their communities. Each episode of the podcast will feature in-depth conversations between Vanderbilt Law Professor Alissa Marque Heydari and prosecutors, policy experts, and advocates with diverse perspectives on the challenges and responsibilities of prosecution.
Produced by Kerry Hayes from Coeo Strategies, Collin Nixon, and Alissa Marque Heydari. Music by Ashot Danielian and Ivymusic.
District Attorney Jared Williams (Augusta, Georgia) used to spend his Christmas mornings in the local Youth Detention Center. It wasn’t because Jared got into trouble – instead, his parents would bring him to the Center to show him the experience of kids who didn’t have the advantages he had growing up, and to make sure those children didn’t spend the holidays alone. To this day, the perspective Jared developed through those early experiences continues to shape his approach to criminal justice. As his community’s top prosecutor, Jared has more opportunities than ever to see how early interventions and investments in the lives of youth can help prevent them from becoming involved in the justice system. As Jared explains, giving children access to more resources, especially if they have an incarcerated family member, isn’t a “reform” tactic as much as it’s a cost-effective and common sense way to minimize harm in his community. Jared’s interest in the lives of Augusta’s youth is only one of the topics we covered in this wide-ranging interview. Shortly after his election in 2020 – as the first black person ever, and the first Democrat in many years to win his seat – Georgia’s state legislature carved out a portion of his district so that a more conservative prosecutor could represent it. As Jared points out, that type of gerrymandering cuts both ways: state lawmakers disenfranchised thousands of his supporters while also stripping some of his opponents of any say over his policies. This was one of the many unexpected insights from our conversation. Ultimately, our discussion was about values: where they come from and how they show up later in life, especially in a job like Jared’s, where the stakes are high.

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