The Giant Builders
The Giant Builders
Podcast Description
Welcome to The Giant Builders Podcast, where growth and transformation come to life through meaningful conversations, expert insights, and real-life stories. We are dedicated to helping individuals build their lives in ways that matter most—through personal growth, relationships, health, and spiritual journey. At The Giant Builders, we believe that everyone has the potential to be a builder—someone who is constantly learning, evolving, and creating a life aligned with their values and purpose.
Sharing subjects to enrich your life:
Faith & Spiritual Growth: Spiritual nourishment through inspiring stories that bring clarity to your walk with faith.
Health & Wellness: Experts on health practices, mental wellness, and fitness strategies to support your journey toward a balanced lifestyle.
Personal Development: Guidance on self-awareness, and overcoming challenges.
Business & Finance: Learn from entrepreneurs, and professional growth with advice from business owners.
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Content Themes
The podcast covers a variety of themes related to personal growth, including faith and spiritual growth, health and wellness, personal development, and business strategies. For example, episodes explore topics like overcoming anxiety with hypnotherapy, building personal brands, and maximizing business profitability with actionable insights from experts.

Welcome to The Giant Builders Podcast, where growth and transformation come to life through meaningful conversations, expert insights, and real-life stories. We are dedicated to helping individuals build their lives in ways that matter most—through personal growth, relationships, health, and spiritual journey. At The Giant Builders, we believe that everyone has the potential to be a builder—someone who is constantly learning, evolving, and creating a life aligned with their values and purpose.
Sharing subjects to enrich your life:
Faith & Spiritual Growth: Spiritual nourishment through inspiring stories that bring clarity to your walk with faith.
Health & Wellness: Experts on health practices, mental wellness, and fitness strategies to support your journey toward a balanced lifestyle.
Personal Development: Guidance on self-awareness, and overcoming challenges.
Business & Finance: Learn from entrepreneurs, and professional growth with advice from business owners.
Forgiveness can feel impossible when the pain runs deep. In this episode of The Giant Builders, Lois Wyant sits down with Natalie Baird King, a family law attorney, mediator, and aspiring author, to talk about what forgiveness really is and what it is not.
Natalie shares her powerful story and explains why forgiveness is a daily practice, not a one-time decision. She also breaks down common myths like “forgive and forget” and “forgiveness excuses what happened,” and replaces them with something far more honest and freeing.
You’ll hear a vivid word picture that might stay with you for a long time. The backpack full of rocks we carry when we hold onto resentment, and what happens when we finally set it down.
Natalie also teaches her HOPE framework:
Harken back, Open your heart, Proclaim forgiveness is for you, Experience freedom.
If you’re carrying something heavy, this conversation offers a real path forward.
Natalie’s book: Forgiving Unforgivable
Website: forgivingunforgivable.com
GIVEAWAY: Lois is buying a copy of the book and giving it away. Comment below to be entered in the drawing.
Note: This episode includes discussion of abuse and trauma.
Timestamp overview
00:00 Forgiveness and the backpack illustration teaser
00:33 Welcome and meet Natalie Baird King
00:57 Attorney and mediator with a mission to teach forgiveness
01:26 How her forgiveness journey began
01:30 Growing up in an abusive home
01:55 Repeating patterns and surviving abusive relationships
02:07 A turning point that changed everything
02:23 Her father’s sudden death in 2012
02:31 Preparing to speak at a domestic violence fundraiser
03:29 The phone call that changed the day
03:50 Grief, guilt, and the search for healing
04:49 What forgiveness means now
04:53 Forgiveness as a daily practice
05:37 The myth of “forgive and forget”
06:01 The myth that forgiveness excuses behavior
06:14 Forgiveness as the key to your freedom
06:36 The backpack of rocks word picture
07:28 Why setting the backpack down changes everything
07:56 HOPE framework overview
08:12 Harken back without reliving it
09:10 Open your heart and feel the emotions
10:07 Proclaim forgiveness is for you
10:30 Experience freedom
10:36 A retreat story and a moment of release
15:35 How this led to her book
16:04 You can use the four steps without her exact path
16:25 About the book and where to find it
17:34 Lois announces a book giveaway
18:11 Closing encouragement for listeners
19:44 Final thoughts and where to connect
20:11 See you next week
Check out other episodes
Business: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf7Uc6zi2pF9pnIL1foYJ3uVP8z1fCVmZ
Health: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf7Uc6zi2pF9QEQ1q2e05K28IjUvLPGJy
Spiritual: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf7Uc6zi2pF96jBzfz6QHUegeULd7YEsY
Family: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf7Uc6zi2pF_SaLQxs8op1CPSDg_wG8vL
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