Entra.Chat

Entra.Chat
Podcast Description
Entra Chat is a weekly podcast hosted by Merill Fernando and delivers practical insights for Microsoft administrators and security professionals through conversations with identity experts who've been in the trenches.
Episodes feature seasoned Entra practitioners sharing real-world deployment experiences and Microsoft Entra team members who build the features you use daily.
Get the inside track on best practices, implementation strategies, and upcoming capabilities directly from those who design and deploy Microsoft identity solutions.
Join us for actionable takeaways you can apply immediately in your Microsoft 365, Azure, and Entra environments.
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Focuses on Microsoft Entra, identity management, and security practices with episodes covering topics like 'From Okta to Entra: Migrating 700 Apps in 90 Days' and best practices for implementation strategies. The content emphasizes practical advice directly applicable in Microsoft 365, Azure, and Entra environments.

Entra Chat is a weekly podcast hosted by Merill Fernando and delivers practical insights for Microsoft administrators and security professionals through conversations with identity experts who’ve been in the trenches.
Episodes feature seasoned Entra practitioners sharing real-world deployment experiences and Microsoft Entra team members who build the features you use daily.
Get the inside track on best practices, implementation strategies, and upcoming capabilities directly from those who design and deploy Microsoft identity solutions.
Join us for actionable takeaways you can apply immediately in your Microsoft 365, Azure, and Entra environments.
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Entra.Chat, its content and opinions are my (Merill Fernando) own and do not reflect the views of my employer (Microsoft). All postings are provided “AS IS” with no warranties and is not supported by the author. All trademarks and copyrights belong to their owners and are used for identification only.
In this episode of Entra.Chat, I dive into the critical world of app governance with experts Jay Gundotra and Sander Berkouwer, who unpack the hidden risks of non-human identities in Microsoft Entra.
From shocking real-world breaches like Midnight Blizzard to a hilarious tale of a theme park’s water supply mishap, we explore why securing your cloud apps is more urgent than ever. Tune in to discover practical tips and tools to safeguard your organization without losing your giraffes!
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About Jay Gundotra
Jay is the CEO and technical founder of E-Now. He has a long history as an Exchange and Active Directory engineer, which led him to found his company and focus on solving complex identity and application governance challenges for enterprises.
LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/jay-gundotra-19079a/
About Sander Berkouwer
Sander Berkouwer is a 17-year Microsoft MVP veteran and an accomplished identity architect. With deep expertise from being “in the trenches,” he partners with Jay to educate the community and build solutions for managing non-human identities and service principals.
LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanderberkouwer/
🔗 Related Links
* AppGov Community – https://community.appgovscore.com/
* How Ownerless Apps in Entra ID Increase Your Attack Surface
* Securing Workload Identities in Entra ID: A Practical Guide for IT and Security Teams
📗 Chapters
00:00 Intro 01:55 What is App Governance? 04:02 The Origin Story of Focusing on App Governance 08:35 Why App Security is Critical Today 14:15 The Dangers of Over-Privileged Apps 20:38 The Giraffe Story: When Cleanup Goes Wrong 24:42 What Should a Successful Organization Do? 30:22 The Full Application Lifecycle: Onboarding to Offboarding 35:38 Building the AppGov Community 45:04 The Importance of Education and Automation
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