We Shouldn't Be Friends
We Shouldn't Be Friends
Podcast Description
Tales from a world where everyone surfs.
Nick’s a bald headed Boomer in recovery from surf rage. Hannah’s a blonde Millennial with a surfboard addiction. It’s like we’re from different planets!
We really should not be friends. But this is 2025, and anything is possible, in and out of the surf.
Here’s our playful, quizzical and highly informed look at modern surf culture in all its watery magnificence, and how it reflects all the social change we see in the world today. Oh, and watch out for epic guests.
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Explores topics related to modern surf culture, societal shifts, and personal anecdotes, with episodes highlighting unique experiences like Cyclomania, where they navigate a cyclone in pursuit of adventure, and an examination of surf media and history.

Tales from a world where everyone surfs.
Nick’s a bald headed Boomer in recovery from surf rage. Hannah’s a blonde Millennial with a surfboard addiction. It’s like we’re from different planets!
We really should not be friends. But this is 2026, and anything is possible, in and out of the surf.
Here’s our playful, quizzical and highly informed look at modern surf culture in all its watery magnificence, and how it reflects all the social change we see in the world today. Oh, and watch out for epic guests.
San Clemente, California, has two town centres. The first and most commonly known is a shop-lined street leading down to the pier. The second is a slightly tangled old industrial area not far from the railroad — the dusty home of some of the world’s great surfboard companies. Right in the middle of it is Matt Biolos, who after 40 years in the business has turned his labels Mayhem and …Lost into icons known to surfers worldwide, an achievement he refers to as “Revenge of the Nerds”. Matt is nothing if not dryly witty, so Hannah and Nick invited him to explain just how this all happened, and what it’s like to be badgered by seemingly a quarter of the CT for their quivers.

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