Elbows Up
Elbows Up
Podcast Description
A podcast for Canada, in a dangerous new world. The global order is shifting under our feet. Our best friend might become an enemy. It’s a psychic shock, and a threat to our sovereignty that demands a response. It's also an opportunity. So, what are we going to do about it?
Longtime journalist and podcast host Jordan Heath-Rawlings (The Big Story, The Gravy Train) examines this strange new world and gives Canadians real work we can take on right now, individually and as a country, to emerge from the chaos strong and free. This isn't a show about picking a fight. It's a show about being ready for one.
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Content Themes
The podcast addresses themes of national sovereignty, civil defense, and proactive citizen engagement. Episodes dive into topics such as historical precedents for civil defense in Canada, comparisons with Scandinavian practices, and strategies for improving community readiness in uncertain times, exemplified by discussions with experts like Peter MacLeod on modern civil defense initiatives.

It’s a fascinating time to be Canadian. This is a show that breaks all that wide open. Dangers. Opportunities. The stories that make this country what it is. And what it isn’t.
Longtime journalist and podcast host Jordan Heath-Rawlings (Elbows Up, The Big Story, The Gravy Train) returns to host critical Canadian Conversations with leading experts and storytellers.
These are discussions—about who we are, how we got here, and where we’re going—designed to offer more than soundbites and headlines. They’ll introduce you to places, people and policies you might not have otherwise met, or perhaps not considered to be worth your attention. But they are.
A little less than a decade ago, the podcast industry was ascendant in Canada. Independent shows were finding an audience, major media companies were starting podcast network and buying up podcast production houses, and it was assumed the medium would continue to grow alongside the American industry. Podcasting had arrived.
Today, despite audience growth that surged during the pandemic and continues today, the industry is struggling. It’s not for lack of quality, as Canadian shows win international awards and Canadian hosts and producers often go on to work on massive shows in the United States. So why is the industry shrinking in Canada? Do Canadian audiences want Canadian shows? And what does the future of the format in this country look like?
Jordan sits down with longtime producer Kattie Laur, who runs Canada’s podcast newsletter Pod The North, hosts her own show, Canardian, and has had just about every job there is in podcasting, as she explains just what happened to the Canadian podcast boom that never came.
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