The Space Between.
The Space Between.
Podcast Description
Attorney & Author, Nicole Sodoma, the marriage-loving divorce attorney, leads informative and encouraging conversations, tips, and anecdotes on separation and divorce, relating her 25 years of experience in counseling and litigating thousands of divorce cases. She is the Founder and Managing Principal of Sodoma Law, the leading family law firm in the Carolinas.She has gained national recognition for her expertise in divorce, custody, and co-parenting, with her insights featured in major media outlets like TODAY, The Wall Street Journal, Business Insider, and The Washington Post.Nicole has been acknowledged as a top attorney and entrepreneur by several regional publications.Under her leadership, Sodoma Law has grown to over 50 employees across 7 office locations in two states.She is also a Certified Parenting Coordinator, Certified Collaborative Law Attorney, and an All American Speaker.Additionally, Nicole is the author of "PLEASE DON'T SAY YOU'RE SORRY," a book offering an empowering perspective on marriage, separation, and divorce, released on May 24, 2022.
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Content Themes
Primary themes include parenting schedules, custody trends, and practical tips for parents navigating divorce. Episodes cover topics such as the intricacies of building effective parenting plans, shifts towards shared parenting arrangements, and the role of technology in custody dynamics. Specific examples include discussions on handling holiday parenting time disputes and preparing for court when seeking custody orders.

Attorney & Author, Nicole Sodoma, the marriage-loving divorce attorney, leads informative and encouraging conversations, tips, and anecdotes on separation and divorce, relating her 25 years of experience in counseling and litigating thousands of divorce cases. She is the Founder and Managing Principal of Sodoma Law, the leading family law firm in the Carolinas.
She has gained national recognition for her expertise in divorce, custody, and co-parenting, with her insights featured in major media outlets like TODAY, The Wall Street Journal, Business Insider, and The Washington Post.
Nicole has been acknowledged as a top attorney and entrepreneur by several regional publications.
Under her leadership, Sodoma Law has grown to over 50 employees across 7 office locations in two states.
She is also a Certified Parenting Coordinator, Certified Collaborative Law Attorney, and an All American Speaker.
Additionally, Nicole is the author of “PLEASE DON’T SAY YOU’RE SORRY,” a book offering an empowering perspective on marriage, separation, and divorce, released on May 24, 2022.
Nicole interviews Laurie Berssack MSW of Carolina’s Matchmaker, about how matchmaking can help people (especially post-divorce) rebuild confidence, get off the apps, and date with more intention. The conversation blends practical dating advice with Nicole’s legal lens on separation/divorce realities and how dating can complicate a case even when it’s technically allowed.
Key takeaways
0) The hardest part of matchmaking: unrealistic expectations
Lori says many clients come in looking for a “perfect robot” partner—hyper-specific, unrealistic ideals—rather than focusing on the foundational traits that actually make relationships work. When people cling to perfection, they often stay single.
0) “Foundations” matter more than the wish list
Lori’s core matching foundations include:
- Faith / values
- Kids (have/want/don’t want)
- Politics / worldview (especially if someone is strongly aligned)
- Lifestyle vision (how they want life to look)
- Temperament compatibility (introvert/extrovert is flexible, foundations are not)
0) “Second partner” advice: don’t overcorrect
They discuss how many people pursue the opposite of their ex and swing too far. Lori recommends a “rebuild” phase: therapy/self-work, self-care, releasing bitterness, and owning your part in what happened. A major readiness red flag is anger/resentment with no self-reflection.
Lori’s core advice:
- Do the self-work and build confidence (gym, style, wellness, therapy)
- Use online dating carefully (it can work)
- Join repeat-exposure environments: charity work, intramural sports, gym, yoga, faith communities—anything where you see the same people regularly
- Chemistry can grow over time; one date isn’t always enough
- Nicole adds: go to the same places at the same times to build community post-divorce
0) Dating “rules” and norms (with a lively debate)
10) Love bombing + early red flags
They define love bombing as “relationship-speeding” behavior (over-texting, big future plans, intense gestures early). Lori’s advice:
- Stay open to love, but notice intensity
- Don’t get emotionally hooked too fast
- If it feels off, slow down and gut-check with friends
- She shares an example where intrusive questions early on signaled a problem and she advised her client to end it
0) Body/fitness questions + honesty in photos
They discuss the reality that people use outdated/edited photos. Lori supports stating preferences like “fit,” but warns against requests like “send more pics” early—she frames that as a red flag and notes modern risks (including AI misuse). Her solution: professional, current photos (including full-length) so there’s no bait-and-switch.
0) Rapid-fire ending: the “one rule”
Lori’s #1 rule for choosing a partner: pick someone you feel safe with (physically, emotionally, financially) and attracted to—she says successful couples describe that “safe + attracted” gut feeling.

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