Noel and Philippe talk about apologies, conflict, and the fact that they’ve blocked and unblocked each other five times over the course of their seven-year friendship. They get into what makes an apology actually feel sincere, why sometimes you have to let people cool off, and when it’s worth saying sorry even if you still think you were right. Plus, Noel tells on himself for making up an entire narrative about a stranger at the gym, and they get into public apologies, embarrassing your friends in front of other people, and the kind of conflict that probably could’ve ended three days ago if somebody would just say sorry.