Going Direct Conversations

Going Direct Conversations
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Going Direct explores the decentralization of the real economy and how new technologies can bring us closer to the products we buy and the people who make them. We feature conversations with entrepreneurs, creators, engineers, and policymakers building new systems around how we produce, distribute, and sell products. If you want to help create this future, come join us!
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The podcast covers themes like the impact of new technology on traditional commerce, sustainability in production, and decentralized manufacturing systems. Episodes explore specific topics such as lean manufacturing in construction and the role of micro-factories in reducing housing costs, showcasing practical solutions to contemporary economic challenges.

Going Direct explores the decentralization of the real economy and how new technologies can bring us closer to the products we buy and the people who make them. We feature conversations with entrepreneurs, creators, engineers, and policymakers building new systems around how we produce, distribute, and sell products. If you want to help create this future, come join us!
Jordan Wolfe sits down with Josef Chen, founder & CEO of Kaikaku for an in-depth conversation on AI, robotics, and the future of restaurants. They dig into how disconnection and loneliness is our generation’s Black Death, what Josef is building, vertical-integration, and how a restaurant with a one-way mirror serves as his living laboratory.
Go eat at Common Room, Kaikaku’s 1st restaurant – https://www.eatcommonroom.com/Follow Jordan on X: https://x.com/jrwolfe
🔗 Follow Josef & Kaikaku:
- Josef on X: https://x.com/joseflchen
- Josef’s writing: https://josef.cn/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josef-chen/
- Kaikaku: https://kaikaku.ai
👉 Key Influences and Resources Mentioned:
- Josef Article: Alone Together: Disconnection Is Our Generation’s Black Death, https://josef.cn/blog/black-death
- Tai Lin, Managing Partner, Proterra Asia https://www.linkedin.com/in/taiclin/
- Podcast: Jack Altman’s New Podcast, Uncapped, https://open.spotify.com/show/25TNLkL7z6ogeWxchpRt17?si=4cc366c0307c446a
Resources listed in Josef’s essay:
- Social regulation of gene expression in human leukocytes: https://genomebiology.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/gb-2007-8-9-r189
- Loneliness Matters: A Theoretical and Empirical Review of Consequences and Mechanisms: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/45283426_Loneliness_Matters_A_Theoretical_and_Empirical_Review_of_Consequences_and_Mechanisms
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:06 Disconnection Is Our Generation’s Black Death
06:03 The Role of Food In Human Connection
06:56 Meaning Of Kaikaku
08:55 Living Laboratory Restaurant: Common Room
14:35 Fast Iteration Cycles Are Difference Between Life And Death
15:57 Vision For A Fully-Integrated Food Tech System
19:19 HPP Technology
20:37 Future of Automation in Restaurants
24:24 Importance of Fast Iteration Cycles
27:04 Team Behind Kaikaku
28:41 Definition Of A ”Business in a Box”
31:22 Private Equity’s Impact On Hospitality
34:00 Robotics Ecosystems and Talent
39:14 Josef’s Personal Journey and Cultural Influences
45:49 Advice For Aspiring Robotics Enthusiasts
47:47 People And Resources That Influence Josef
52:31 Where To Find Josef
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