Going Direct Conversations
Going Direct Conversations
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Going Direct explores the decentralization of the real economy and how new technologies can bring us closer to the products we buy and the people who make them. We feature conversations with entrepreneurs, creators, engineers, and policymakers building new systems around how we produce, distribute, and sell products. If you want to help create this future, come join us!
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The podcast covers themes like the impact of new technology on traditional commerce, sustainability in production, and decentralized manufacturing systems. Episodes explore specific topics such as lean manufacturing in construction and the role of micro-factories in reducing housing costs, showcasing practical solutions to contemporary economic challenges.
Going Direct explores the decentralization of the real economy and how new technologies can bring us closer to the products we buy and the people who make them. We feature conversations with entrepreneurs, creators, engineers, and policymakers building new systems around how we produce, distribute, and sell products. If you want to help create this future, come join us!
I sit down with Liz Muller, co-founder and CEO of Deep Fission, to discuss their underground micro nuclear reactors, decentralized energy, and solve the skyrocketing energy demands of the AI boom.
Liz breaks down the fundamentals of nuclear energy and shares her vision for building clean, safe, and cost-effective power sources that can be deployed in a decentralized way.
- Why nuclear is statistically the safest form of energy production we have
- The real problem with nuclear waste and a clear path to solving it
- Why France successfully went all-in on nuclear energy
- How Deep Fission's design could lower nuclear costs by 80%
- The serendipitous discovery behind their underground reactor concept
- The DOE pilot program and winning the energy race in the US
- How decentralized nuclear can power the AI data center boom
If you're interested in the future of energy, decentralization, or how we'll meet the energy needs of AI, you won't want to miss this conversation.
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:59 Energy 101: What is Nuclear Fission?
03:02 Fission vs. Fusion Explained
03:35 Why Nuclear is The Only Clean & Reliable Power Source
04:39 Why Nuclear Is The Safest Energy We Have
06:10 Real Problem With Nuclear Waste
07:29 Public Perception & Cost Challenges
09:37 How Nuclear Waste Is Currently Stored
11:02 Why France Succeeded With Nuclear Power
11:56 Discovery Behind Deep Fission's Underground Reactors
17:52 Deep Fission’s Modular Design
21:07 Nuclear Fuel Supply Chain Explained
26:27 Building Reactors A Mile Underground
31:35 Gaining Community Acceptance for Nuclear Projects
33:42 DOE’s Pilot Program: A Fast Path To Build by 2026
39:39 Decentralization and Efficiency in Energy Production
42:15 Liz's Journey Into Nuclear Energy
44:37 How Deep Fission Uses AI To Build Reactors
48:19 Liz Predictions
50:45 Rapid Fire
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Links to Liz’s Work:
- Deep Fission – [https://www.deepfission.com](https://www.deepfission.com/)
- LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethmuller/
Key Influences Mentioned:
- Luis Alvarez – https://ahf.nuclearmuseum.org/ahf/profile/luis-alvarez/
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